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Iomcamaro · 02-08-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffny09

How did you get it for 150 ?

Bought it on a detailing forum off of a close friend.

Junkman2008 · 02-08-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SSTG

Why are you guys so freaked out? It's not a rotary. It's just a better machine. And will outlast the Porter Cable.

It does turn down also. LOL.

No one is freaked out, it's called giving responsible advice. You state that the Flex is not a rotary, however, the Flex is rated in OPM's AND RPM's. RPM's as in revolutions per minute, which is exactly how a rotary's power is rated. Now the Flex is no rotary but with the forced rotation, it can do some damage if used incorrectly. It also has a steeper learning curve. You say that it is as safe as a PC. That is absolutely not true. I would love to see two things. I would love to see you take a Flex out to your car and make a video of you doing what I do with the PC in these videos. I would also love to see you open your car up to anyone who wants to try the Flex out on your paint. This is only if you believe what you've posted.

At the same time, I would allow ANYONE with a PC to come buff on my paint, including kids. I do that all the time.

One more thing. The PC is a much better built polisher than the Flex. I've had my Flex serviced 3 times since I bought the thing. Neither my PC-7424 or my PC-7424XP have ever required service and I've had the PC-7424 for years. Those things are bullet proof.

cam fan · 02-08-2012, 10:39 PM

What an interesting debate

thanks for the heads up SSTG

junkman, you know im a fan (even though I keep losing every. single. Adam's. contest. here.)

Junkman2008 · 02-08-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cam fan

What an interesting debate

thanks for the heads up SSTG

junkman, you know im a fan (even though I keep losing every. single. Adam's. contest. here.)

Park you car outside and leave a 16 ounce porterhouse in the glove box. I'll hook up your shine.

cam fan · 02-08-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Park you car outside and leave a 16 ounce porterhouse in the glove box. I'll hook up your shine.

Junkman2008 · 02-08-2012, 11:16 PM

I scared my cat because I lol'ed so loud!!

SSTG · 02-09-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

No one is freaked out, it's called giving responsible advice. You state that the Flex is not a rotary, however, the Flex is rated in OPM's AND RPM's. RPM's as in revolutions per minute, which is exactly how a rotary's power is rated. Now the Flex is no rotary but with the forced rotation, it can do some damage if used incorrectly. It also has a steeper learning curve. You say that it is as safe as a PC. That is absolutely not true. I would love to see two things. I would love to see you take a Flex out to your car and make a video of you doing what I do with the PC in these videos. I would also love to see you open your car up to anyone who wants to try the Flex out on your paint. This is only if you believe what you've posted.

At the same time, I would allow ANYONE with a PC to come buff on my paint, including kids. I do that all the time.

One more thing. The PC is a much better built polisher than the Flex. I've had my Flex serviced 3 times since I bought the thing. Neither my PC-7424 or my PC-7424XP have ever required service and I've had the PC-7424 for years. Those things are bullet proof.

It is a responsible post. I'm not gonna argue with you. You have your opinion, I have mine. As a Detailer of over 20 yrs. I would not let any one buff on my car. It's not the buffer but the operator that makes mistakes.
My thought is to buy the better polisher with the ability to do more paint correcting as the operator gains more experience.
If you burn the paint with the Flex... You really should allow a pro to do it.
If your a garage guy that likes to play with his car? Get the PC.
And I've had my Flex for over 5 years with absolutely no problems.

Junkman2008 · 02-09-2012, 08:11 AM

My number one rule of advice when it comes to paint care. Never tell a guy to do to his paint what I wouldn't allow him to do to mine.

chevy 3 · 02-09-2012, 08:19 AM

This has been said a ton of times on this site (junkman you rule) thanks for your input. Feeling better about my next buy.

cam fan · 02-09-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

My number one rule of advice when it comes to paint care. Never tell a guy to do to his paint what I wouldn't allow him to do to mine.

the golden rule

the golden metallic flake rule

Bad@ssCamaro · 02-10-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

My number one rule of advice when it comes to paint care. Never tell a guy to do to his paint what I wouldn't allow him to do to mine.

'nuf said

CamaroDreams07 · 02-10-2012, 02:19 AM

I'd much rather have the PC over the Flex. It's a more versatile machine, and while it might take a little longer, it can take care of pretty much anything the Flex can with proper technique. It's also more comfortable to use in my experience.

I really can't think of a reason for any member here to own a Flex unless you do detailing on other cars. You simply don't need it on a brand new Camaro, and if you're reading anything in this section of the forum, your car is probably pretty well maintained already.

To me the Flex is like the .40. It's between the PC (9mm) and the rotary (.45), but it's kind of pointless.

Junkman2008 · 02-10-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

I'd much rather have the PC over the Flex. It's a more versatile machine, and while it might take a little longer, it can take care of pretty much anything the Flex can with proper technique. It's also more comfortable to use in my experience.

I really can't think of a reason for any member here to own a Flex unless you do detailing on other cars. You simply don't need it on a brand new Camaro, and if you're reading anything in this section of the forum, your car is probably pretty well maintained already.

To me the Flex is like the .40. It's between the PC (9mm) and the rotary (.45), but it's kind of pointless.

Wow, you must have been a fly on the wall in my garage. I couldn't agree more.

I will say that the Flex does has its place in a weekend warrior's garage if they have some older cars with some really beat up paint but too many people are too fast to pick one up unnecessarily. Like you've said, most folks on this forum are pretty much dealing with relatively new paint, not 12 year old, neglected and severely swirled and hazy paint. Thus, there is no need to cut off more clear coat than necessary with a more aggressive machine. I have demonstrated countless times as to what the PC can do with a proper technique. These three pictures are a true testament to the effectiveness of the PC.

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A PC is a very effective polisher when used with a correct technique.

SSTG · 02-10-2012, 09:12 AM

The Flex has adjustable speeds gentlemen. It does NOT have to be aggressive. There is A LOT more to polishing a car than the buffer that is used. On this forum The Junkman has spent a lot of time educating you guys. I am not here to argue, just help. If you narrow your mind to one way and one way only? It keeps you from being the best you can be. I will stand by my words and say that the flex is a better machine.

And as far as The Junkmans statement. " Never tell a guy to do to his paint what I wouldn't allow him to do to mine." I never told him what to do to his paint. Just that the Flex is better. If he wanted my advice on that I could surely help. I would start by saying "Always start with the least aggressive method" which CAN be achieved with the Flex.

Please remember, I didn't get into a "How To" just my opinion on a Polisher.

Thanks guys.

02-08-2012, 10:39 PM	#17
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02-08-2012, 11:16 PM	#20
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02-09-2012, 08:11 AM	#22
Junkman2008 "Detailing Devil Dog" Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,730	My number one rule of advice when it comes to paint care. Never tell a guy to do to his paint what I wouldn't allow him to do to mine. __________________ "Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."

02-10-2012, 02:19 AM	#26
CamaroDreams07 Drives: Slow V6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 9,361 View My Garage	I'd much rather have the PC over the Flex. It's a more versatile machine, and while it might take a little longer, it can take care of pretty much anything the Flex can with proper technique. It's also more comfortable to use in my experience. I really can't think of a reason for any member here to own a Flex unless you do detailing on other cars. You simply don't need it on a brand new Camaro, and if you're reading anything in this section of the forum, your car is probably pretty well maintained already. To me the Flex is like the .40. It's between the PC (9mm) and the rotary (.45), but it's kind of pointless. __________________ [B]

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