12-22-2012, 09:08 PM | #1 |
Whipple setup lost power & leaking water
Hey Guy's, just went out for a hard run to show a friend the performance, when car has lost power won't rev & brought up a misfire DTC, when parked up it's leaking water now from back of the engine somewhere near the oil filter but more to the middle, haven't had chance to get it up in the air yet to see properly. Also exhaust was alot quieter than usual with some rattling coming from exhaust I think & was extra hotter than usual. Any idea's from anyone who has experienced this before with whipple SC.
My guess is either, high flow catts have blocked up & now I have blown head gasket maybe, or Whipple intercooler is leaking into cylinders.
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Camaro 2SS/RS 2010 / L99 / Whipple SC /Dynatech Headers & Catts (gutted), ID 850 injectors, ZL1 fuel pump +BAP & ADM pump controller, ZR1 3Bar MAP, Dual Elite Catch Cans, 91 octane ,Eibach sway bar kit , Driveshaft loop, oil cooler delete, ADM dual gauges (AFR/Boost) LC1 wideband controller, D/D, ARP stud kit ,Callies forged slayer crank 3.622", callies ultra rods, wiseco forged pistons, L99-LS3, rollmaster double row steel timing set & comps cam timing cover,blower cam 630/660 lift,3/8 pushrods, pac gear 8deg, yella terra ultra lites. LS9 head gaskets. Texas speed custom oil pump. Asm by me.
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12-22-2012, 09:40 PM | #2 |
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Did you check the oil to see if you had water in it?
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12-22-2012, 10:37 PM | #3 |
Yes checked that & all good, no color change or rise in level.
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Camaro 2SS/RS 2010 / L99 / Whipple SC /Dynatech Headers & Catts (gutted), ID 850 injectors, ZL1 fuel pump +BAP & ADM pump controller, ZR1 3Bar MAP, Dual Elite Catch Cans, 91 octane ,Eibach sway bar kit , Driveshaft loop, oil cooler delete, ADM dual gauges (AFR/Boost) LC1 wideband controller, D/D, ARP stud kit ,Callies forged slayer crank 3.622", callies ultra rods, wiseco forged pistons, L99-LS3, rollmaster double row steel timing set & comps cam timing cover,blower cam 630/660 lift,3/8 pushrods, pac gear 8deg, yella terra ultra lites. LS9 head gaskets. Texas speed custom oil pump. Asm by me.
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12-22-2012, 10:44 PM | #4 |
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You didn't throw the belt did u?
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12-22-2012, 11:43 PM | #5 |
Nope, belt looks still in good condition, thought it may have been slipping to start with until I checked it. It will free rev up to 6000rpm but when I load engine it won't go above 4500rpm & does not sound pretty, but still idles & drives normally when cruising which makes me think 1 of the catts has clogged up which has caused to much heat & pressure causing head gasket to give. Friends got a Radiator pressure tester so trying that tomorrow first.
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Camaro 2SS/RS 2010 / L99 / Whipple SC /Dynatech Headers & Catts (gutted), ID 850 injectors, ZL1 fuel pump +BAP & ADM pump controller, ZR1 3Bar MAP, Dual Elite Catch Cans, 91 octane ,Eibach sway bar kit , Driveshaft loop, oil cooler delete, ADM dual gauges (AFR/Boost) LC1 wideband controller, D/D, ARP stud kit ,Callies forged slayer crank 3.622", callies ultra rods, wiseco forged pistons, L99-LS3, rollmaster double row steel timing set & comps cam timing cover,blower cam 630/660 lift,3/8 pushrods, pac gear 8deg, yella terra ultra lites. LS9 head gaskets. Texas speed custom oil pump. Asm by me.
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12-23-2012, 07:56 AM | #6 |
Do your basics first, check engine coolant level, check SC coolant level, pressure test both systems then start diagnosing from there, also what was the misfire code? P0300 is random misfire, P030X (X) represents the cylinder that is misfiring. Let us know what you find
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12-23-2012, 08:00 AM | #7 |
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Could have melted and spark plug.
If a cat was plugged you would have reduced engine power mode. |
12-23-2012, 08:14 AM | #8 |
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The symptoms you describe are exactly what I had when my cats blocked except the leaking says more going on. If the cats blocked and you pushed it hard the added boost (pressure) possibly blew a head gasket. I hope not worse than that. Good luck and let us know what you find.
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LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000, |
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12-23-2012, 02:43 PM | #10 |
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Boost leak? Check all the connections to see if anything is loose. I would think the manifold intercooler would run water directly into the intake runners. Did you check the supercharger itself and the intercooler-heat exchanger hoses?
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12-23-2012, 08:09 PM | #11 |
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Mine went right into limp mode after the cats melted.
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12-23-2012, 11:34 PM | #12 |
I have sorted it now, the catts are toast! only in car for three months & completely blocked, Ive gutted them now. The water leaks may have been a coincidence, coming off the oil cooler, so have taken that off & blocked off water, no water leaks now. Power seems to be restored, will check plugs later, having a beer now thank f*^k, feel more relaxed. I will post pics later of catts, really disappointed paid good money for crap!
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Camaro 2SS/RS 2010 / L99 / Whipple SC /Dynatech Headers & Catts (gutted), ID 850 injectors, ZL1 fuel pump +BAP & ADM pump controller, ZR1 3Bar MAP, Dual Elite Catch Cans, 91 octane ,Eibach sway bar kit , Driveshaft loop, oil cooler delete, ADM dual gauges (AFR/Boost) LC1 wideband controller, D/D, ARP stud kit ,Callies forged slayer crank 3.622", callies ultra rods, wiseco forged pistons, L99-LS3, rollmaster double row steel timing set & comps cam timing cover,blower cam 630/660 lift,3/8 pushrods, pac gear 8deg, yella terra ultra lites. LS9 head gaskets. Texas speed custom oil pump. Asm by me.
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12-23-2012, 11:47 PM | #13 |
These are what they look like, when removed, I will be talking to manufacturer bout this, if no joy I maybe bad mouthing them till sorted. Really pissed bout quality, If no good for supercharging this should be stated.
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Camaro 2SS/RS 2010 / L99 / Whipple SC /Dynatech Headers & Catts (gutted), ID 850 injectors, ZL1 fuel pump +BAP & ADM pump controller, ZR1 3Bar MAP, Dual Elite Catch Cans, 91 octane ,Eibach sway bar kit , Driveshaft loop, oil cooler delete, ADM dual gauges (AFR/Boost) LC1 wideband controller, D/D, ARP stud kit ,Callies forged slayer crank 3.622", callies ultra rods, wiseco forged pistons, L99-LS3, rollmaster double row steel timing set & comps cam timing cover,blower cam 630/660 lift,3/8 pushrods, pac gear 8deg, yella terra ultra lites. LS9 head gaskets. Texas speed custom oil pump. Asm by me.
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12-24-2012, 12:02 AM | #14 |
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Glad you found the problem. I went to ARH high flow cats and they have held up perfectly.
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LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000, |
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