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Old 04-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #29
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You'd think so, but it seems that a lot of people don't 'get it'. Just wait, as soon as the 1/4 times show that it's slower than a ZL1, people are going to start talking about what a 'ripoff' the Z/28 is when they can get a ZL1 that is 'faster' and cheaper..... Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm probably right...
Unfortunately I think you will be right
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:43 PM   #30
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I agree.

The auto enthusiast magazines will likely run the Z/28 in the quarter mile as part of their perfunctory testing, but as most of us know the Z/28 was not designed for quarter mile racing. In fact, according to GM to preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28 and to save weight, the Z/28 doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. Accordingly, I doubt there will be many, if any, Z/28 owners who will participate in quarter mile racing with the Z/28. Therefore, as many have indicated, the quarter mile times and speed that the Z/28 can achieve are not likely to be particularly relevant to most Z/28 owners.
Ur right about the half shafts and so on.. Its equivalent to a stock ss. Livernoise had the worlds fastest gen 5 at 1 point dialing high 9's on stock suspension . Point is I do my homework
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:45 PM   #31
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u all bitch and cry , ya its not made for the 1/4 but , on another hand if ur talking performance , the 1/4 readings tell alot about a car.
simple 1/4 times mean alot in road racing , believe it or not. but i gonna say they will be more ppl buy these cars to drive around then take to the track so . im gonna say they will be more ppl at the 1/4 racing them aswell. its just more popular the road racing. with the ls7 and being around ss weight it will make a fun 1.5 mile car.

if that serious about racing then a factory car is not gonna cut it to begin with.


lol , i like the fact that these so called racers say 1/4 times have nothing to do with how this car will do at a road coarse . power has alot to do with turning a whole lot. if u got a car that cant pull very hard then u r gonna be changing gears alot causing movement, where a powerful car will power thur it, u drive with ur power as much as u drive with a wheel. are u all really that blind?
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:24 PM   #32
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Ur right about the half shafts and so on.. Its equivalent to a stock ss. Livernoise had the worlds fastest gen 5 at 1 point dialing high 9's on stock suspension . Point is I do my homework
No, it has the 1LE upgraded rear components.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:26 PM   #33
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I agree.

The auto enthusiast magazines will likely run the Z/28 in the quarter mile as part of their perfunctory testing, but as most of us know the Z/28 was not designed for quarter mile racing. In fact, according to GM to preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28 and to save weight, the Z/28 doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. Accordingly, I doubt there will be many, if any, Z/28 owners who will participate in quarter mile racing with the Z/28. Therefore, as many have indicated, the quarter mile times and speed that the Z/28 can achieve are not likely to be particularly relevant to most Z/28 owners.

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u all bitch and cry , ya its not made for the 1/4 but , on another hand if ur talking performance , the 1/4 readings tell alot about a car.
simple 1/4 times mean alot in road racing , believe it or not. but i gonna say they will be more ppl buy these cars to drive around then take to the track so . im gonna say they will be more ppl at the 1/4 racing them aswell. its just more popular the road racing. with the ls7 and being around ss weight it will make a fun 1.5 mile car.

if that serious about racing then a factory car is not gonna cut it to begin with.


lol , i like the fact that these so called racers say 1/4 times have nothing to do with how this car will do at a road coarse . power has alot to do with turning a whole lot. if u got a car that cant pull very hard then u r gonna be changing gears alot causing movement, where a powerful car will power thur it, u drive with ur power as much as u drive with a wheel. are u all really that blind?
Let's try not to be so inclusive.

On a road-course 1/4 mile performance is not important at all except for maybe a standing start which is uncommon. It needs to pull hard off corners and down straights, but not from a standing start. BTW that is what both the high-revving LS7 and this Tremec 6 are built for pulling hard!
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:31 PM   #35
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No , I get it the last time I checked their was only 14 individuals on this thread . It's millions outside "worldly" speaking that loves camaros and every one has their own opinion . I'm more into the amazing side of life. Like what if , that wow factor!!! Being the person I am I'd rather work with more than less . It's simple math. If the copo came with a vin i recon I wouldn't be here . I'll say it again , their will be many others looking at this vehicle to maximize its potential . Just know that!!
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lol , i like the fact that these so called racers say 1/4 times have nothing to do with how this car will do at a road coarse .
I think the issue is you just don't get what we are saying....

The Z/28 is more than likely going to be slower than the ZL1 in the quarter but more than likely it will be faster around a road course. Using your logic how would that be possible?
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It's like a radio DJ putting his spin to a new song . Then it's called a "remix"^^^
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With 500HP roughly 430rwhp 3830 empty weight, tires that have 60 tread wear (better than nitto 555r @ 100 tread wear) most of all with a competent driver low 12's @ 115 - 116mph

I've cut a 1.85 60ft with my nittos that got me a 12.5 @ 113 with 403rwhp, another 30+- hp and better tire that's my guess
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u all bitch and cry , ya its not made for the 1/4 but , on another hand if ur talking performance , the 1/4 readings tell alot about a car.
simple 1/4 times mean alot in road racing , believe it or not. but i gonna say they will be more ppl buy these cars to drive around then take to the track so . im gonna say they will be more ppl at the 1/4 racing them aswell. its just more popular the road racing. with the ls7 and being around ss weight it will make a fun 1.5 mile car.

if that serious about racing then a factory car is not gonna cut it to begin with.


lol , i like the fact that these so called racers say 1/4 times have nothing to do with how this car will do at a road coarse . power has alot to do with turning a whole lot. if u got a car that cant pull very hard then u r gonna be changing gears alot causing movement, where a powerful car will power thur it, u drive with ur power as much as u drive with a wheel. are u all really that blind?
That was painful to read, on multiple levels.

Most important factors for road-course performance of a street-legal car, in order of importance:

Driver
Suspension
Brakes
Weight
Naturally aspirated engine with a linear power delivery
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You forgot gearing. And yes it was painful.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #41
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I think the issue is you just don't get what we are saying....

The Z/28 is more than likely going to be slower than the ZL1 in the quarter but more than likely it will be faster around a road course. Using your logic how would that be possible?
who said any diff, i just asked the standard ? if it but hurts u guys that bad then oh well.

where did i say it wasnt important . power is very important. if u want to be fast u need power .

why the ls7 then. if power is not important i would rather have the ls3 . less weight .


guess we will see when it is released.
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That was painful to read, on multiple levels.

Most important factors for road-course performance of a street-legal car, in order of importance:

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Weight
Naturally aspirated engine with a linear power delivery

its 2 diff worlds. simply if u guys think its not important. then thats u . im pretty sure if this car is a 14 sec car then its gonna suck at road racing. it may do good at autocross then. lol
have any of u guy even been on a large coarse? or pushed a car hard into a turn pushing its limits if not then . pls stick to the ? 1/4 times lol

just like the 1le. its a road car but how many race in the 1/4 mile. same diff
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