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Andymon · 08-18-2013, 11:05 PM

HAHA

TBone · 08-19-2013, 10:31 PM

Ah.....er....eh.... but ...... DOH!!!!

For now......

T.

Andymon · 08-19-2013, 10:35 PM

Aww give him a break...it's his birthday!

TBone · 08-19-2013, 10:40 PM

It's Rob's Birthday?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROB!!!!!!!

Besides, it just some friendly $hit. He knows it. Once you join our ranks you will be eligible for it too, lol. The good times we have at the track spills over onto the boards. It is addictive as hell my friend.

T.

Rob@WretchedMS · 08-19-2013, 11:32 PM

it is true, i am officially not 40 anymore, lol

L99spec · 08-20-2013, 09:41 AM

Sway bars are the best things you can change, so start there. After that, you can address wheel hop

L99spec · 08-20-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Andymon

Thanks Tbone. Yes I have ready "the book" on suspension. My main question right now is are coilover worth the cost on a street only car that seems to only do spirited runs from time to time.

no. Just do sways. Thats all I'm planning on doing for mine. Good tires and sway bars will do wonders for handling. For wheel hop, all you really need to look at is the bushings. Wheel hop is created by the wheel moving foward which changes the alignment and then the grip. All you need are stiff bushings and sways for what you are doing.

Rob@WretchedMS · 08-20-2013, 10:10 AM

L99, i think he's looking for info from people that have done the upgrades already.

Andymon · 08-20-2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@WretchedMS

L99, i think he's looking for info from people that have done the upgrades already.

Yes. kind of wanting to see what people experienced after the mods.

Fast6.3 · 08-25-2013, 11:44 AM

I did pfadt ZL1 sways trailing arms toe rods Pedders radius bushing inserts and cradle bushing inserts and pfadt agressive street alignment. Its night and day. Of all the mods Ive done I think those are best well after power upgrades. But seriously the car handles super dont track the car just street spirited driving Took it to the drags car takes off smoothly no hop just squats and takesoff hope that helps

Andymon · 08-25-2013, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast6.3

I did pfadt ZL1 sways trailing arms toe rods Pedders radius bushing inserts and cradle bushing inserts and pfadt agressive street alignment. Its night and day. Of all the mods Ive done I think those are best well after power upgrades. But seriously the car handles super dont track the car just street spirited driving Took it to the drags car takes off smoothly no hop just squats and takesoff hope that helps

Any change in ride quality or harshness over bumps?

SS PANTHER · 08-26-2013, 05:42 AM

I have the Hotchkis 1" springs, Pfadt ZLspec sways and Pedders poly subframe bushings. The ride quality is stiffer and more harsh over undulations and uneven surfaces. The ride quality on smooth or level highway is not much different than stock. The handling is great and there is no wheel hop, although, I am only at about 430hp. I had the Hotchkis springs only before adding the sways and bushings and the ride was very good. You may want to start out with springs and poly subframe bushings before going to large sways. Do not go with solid bushings for the street and you do not need coilovers for your needs unless you want to spend the extra money. The set up I have is more than enough for the street, spirted canyon carving and hard launches. The P-zilch tires are now the limiting factor.

Synner · 08-26-2013, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andymon

Any change in ride quality or harshness over bumps?

Sways and bushings wont really add any harshness, thats all in spring rates and shock damping. There was zero difference with mine. Unless you're going uneven over a speed bump you wouldn't notice stiff sways.

I have my double adjustables 100% on track settings because I'm a glutton for punishment and get free dental when my fillings get shaken out.

Andymon · 08-26-2013, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

Sways and bushings wont really add any harshness, thats all in spring rates and shock damping. There was zero difference with mine. Unless you're going uneven over a speed bump you wouldn't notice stiff sways.

I have my double adjustables 100% on track settings because I'm a glutton for punishment and get free dental when my fillings get shaken out.

What setup do you have?

08-19-2013, 10:31 PM	#30
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	Ah.....er....eh.... but ...... DOH!!!! For now...... T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

08-19-2013, 10:40 PM	#32
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	It's Rob's Birthday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROB!!!!!!! Besides, it just some friendly $hit. He knows it. Once you join our ranks you will be eligible for it too, lol. The good times we have at the track spills over onto the boards. It is addictive as hell my friend. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

08-25-2013, 11:44 AM	#38
Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	I did pfadt ZL1 sways trailing arms toe rods Pedders radius bushing inserts and cradle bushing inserts and pfadt agressive street alignment. Its night and day. Of all the mods Ive done I think those are best well after power upgrades. But seriously the car handles super dont track the car just street spirited driving Took it to the drags car takes off smoothly no hop just squats and takesoff hope that helps __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats

08-26-2013, 05:42 AM	#40
SS PANTHER Drives: 2013 SS Supercharged Convertible Join Date: May 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,714	I have the Hotchkis 1" springs, Pfadt ZLspec sways and Pedders poly subframe bushings. The ride quality is stiffer and more harsh over undulations and uneven surfaces. The ride quality on smooth or level highway is not much different than stock. The handling is great and there is no wheel hop, although, I am only at about 430hp. I had the Hotchkis springs only before adding the sways and bushings and the ride was very good. You may want to start out with springs and poly subframe bushings before going to large sways. Do not go with solid bushings for the street and you do not need coilovers for your needs unless you want to spend the extra money. The set up I have is more than enough for the street, spirted canyon carving and hard launches. The P-zilch tires are now the limiting factor. Last edited by SS PANTHER; 08-26-2013 at 05:58 PM. Reason: .

08-18-2013, 11:05 PM	#29
Andymon Drives: TwinTurbo 2012 IOM Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: OH Posts: 140	HAHA

08-19-2013, 10:35 PM	#31
Andymon Drives: TwinTurbo 2012 IOM Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: OH Posts: 140	Aww give him a break...it's his birthday!

08-19-2013, 11:32 PM	#33
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	it is true, i am officially not 40 anymore, lol

08-20-2013, 09:41 AM	#34
L99spec Drives: 2012 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 49	Sway bars are the best things you can change, so start there. After that, you can address wheel hop

08-20-2013, 10:10 AM	#36
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	L99, i think he's looking for info from people that have done the upgrades already.