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Dropspeed · 10-07-2014, 09:13 AM

I have been a bit MIA as I have been busy with life...but I wanted to share my latest track day at Grattan with the 1LECTSVSSZ28.

I was instructing at a 2 Day event at Grattan Raceway in Beliding MI the weekend of Sept 27th and 28th. I borrowed the Bid Red Truck courtesy of my friends at Rodgers Chevrolet and headed off to the track. the weekend weather could not have been more perfect...70s and sun all weekend.

I had two new mods I wanted to try this weekend: Z/28 Wheels with Hankook RS3 305/30/19 tires and Hawk DTC-60 front pads and DTC-30 Rear pads.

Previous Lap times

May 2013: 1:31.47 (1 Glory lap, Consistent 1:32.xxx) STOCK

Sept 2013: 1:30.22 (Consistent 1:30.xx all day) Pedders springs, Intake Avg: 124 on the straight

Added Brakes/19" wheels and 305 tires

Sept 27, 2014: 1:29.43
Sept 28, 2014: 1:29.76 Averaged: 128 on the straight

TIRES: :( So why not bigger gains/lower lap time? honestly I think it is the tires. the tires work, but they are not great. I think the stock Goodyears when hot are a much better tire. The are more sharp on turn in, they do not heat up as much and they feel better on the edge.

Pads: Pads worked as expected. They are aggressive but allowed me to brake deeper than before. front calipers are now a nice shade of burnt gold.

Other notable:

Drove a new Hellcat that a friend named Ralph Gilles brought to the track along with his Viper. We go back about 16+years and his wife was my student in her GT3 that weekend. (He was running 1:22s in the Viper) The video of the Hellcat recently on Jalopnik is from the same weekend. I didn't push the car as it was not mine.....But it MOVES on the straight!!!
Drove the 2007 GT3 on Race Tires on track.....UM YES PLEASE! not much more I need to say...(picture below: white helmet/blue shield)
Yes, I have all 4 wheels off at about 80 MPH. there is a braking zone and then a right just after you touch back down.

Tons of pictures on the link and a video from my fastest session. After the GTR let me by he chased me for two laps or so and I let him back by. He is also an experienced instructor and I was happy to be able to play with the GTR.

Link to VIDEO:

http://youtu.be/lsXANePEzdk

Link to more pictures a friend took:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1156469...eat=directlink

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KaBoom1701 · 10-07-2014, 10:25 AM

Great pics.

I love your "fly mode" picture. lol

Cleancoupe · 10-07-2014, 11:22 AM

Nice run! That fly mode picture is awesome. Congrats on having the first lifted 1LE.

Camaro Dude · 10-07-2014, 12:06 PM

THAT picture in air is

!

Will check out vid later tonight (cigarette).

LT1Zob · 10-07-2014, 12:28 PM

Awesome pics. Now need your help Matt. Was at Waterford Hills 2 weeks ago, had a blast. Except, all of the loose rubber on the track is now fused to my tires. Do I just drive it off?

Dropspeed · 10-07-2014, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzobian

Awesome pics. Now need your help Matt. Was at Waterford Hills 2 weeks ago, had a blast. Except, all of the loose rubber on the track is now fused to my tires. Do I just drive it off?

Yes!...

Or a quick burnout will clear up the rear. Some hard braking will clean up the fronts.

Billy10mm · 10-07-2014, 02:20 PM

Some guys get all the luck. Runs SRT, owns a Viper, has a wife with a GT3, and she drives it on the track.

My wife on the other hand, tells me that I'm a pre-pubescent child every time I start the car.

gajagfan · 10-07-2014, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy10mm

Some guys get all the luck. Runs SRT, owns a Viper, has a wife with a GT3, and she drives it on the track.

My wife on the other hand, tells me that I'm a pre-pubescent child every time I start the car.

Well at least you can say your wife is smart!!!!!

tw78911sc · 10-07-2014, 03:48 PM

Too funny, I hear the same thing at my house as well!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy10mm

Some guys get all the luck. Runs SRT, owns a Viper, has a wife with a GT3, and she drives it on the track.

My wife on the other hand, tells me that I'm a pre-pubescent child every time I start the car.

SASQUATCHelvis · 10-07-2014, 04:09 PM

Great pictures! It looks like an awesome time. I'll have to make it out to Grattan next season.

Dropspeed · 10-10-2014, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SASQUATCHelvis

Great pictures! It looks like an awesome time. I'll have to make it out to Grattan next season.

We kick back off in Aprils 2015. Come on out.

X25 · 10-10-2014, 04:31 AM

The season is quickly coming to an end. Oregon Raceway Club is trying to organize one last track day before closing the season next week. I hope they do, so I can try the oil cooler and full Z/28 suspension (on 1LE wheels shod with G:2s this time). I hope I can make it!

I checked out your video. The tires were squeaking so much! I did buy the same tires, and they look very nice to the eye; it's disappointing that they do not match the grip they promise.

If only we had NT01s in 305/30/19; those tires are not the best in terms of grip, but they are very consistent. After all, if a tire quickly loses its grip (like R888s which are available), how can I know that the new way of taking a turn benefited me or not...

I researched MPSC 2 tires, and they seem to be quite a bit slower than Trofeo Rs for the same money, so I don't think they're a good buy.

I think I really need to decide if I should have just 1 set of wheels, or two. This applies to you, too. If you had two sets, you could elect to have Trofeo Rs on your Z/28 wheels, and Hankooks on another set (like APEX's ARC-8 19x10.5 wheels spin-forged @ 22.95 lbs that I am considering) for street use.

Tires, and brakes: I don't like these subjects for Camaros : )

SASQUATCHelvis · 10-10-2014, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropspeed

We kick back off in Aprils 2015. Come on out.

Sounds good, I've been hooked since Waterford in August.

cornerspeed92 · 10-10-2014, 01:35 PM

Nice Matt, and love the air time. What was your speed when you crested the to top of the rise?

10-07-2014, 09:13 AM	#1
Dropspeed 2013 Camaro SS1LECTSVZ28 Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Suburbs of Detroit, MI Posts: 2,440	Grattan Track day w/pics and video I have been a bit MIA as I have been busy with life...but I wanted to share my latest track day at Grattan with the 1LECTSVSSZ28. I was instructing at a 2 Day event at Grattan Raceway in Beliding MI the weekend of Sept 27th and 28th. I borrowed the Bid Red Truck courtesy of my friends at Rodgers Chevrolet and headed off to the track. the weekend weather could not have been more perfect...70s and sun all weekend. I had two new mods I wanted to try this weekend: Z/28 Wheels with Hankook RS3 305/30/19 tires and Hawk DTC-60 front pads and DTC-30 Rear pads. Previous Lap times May 2013: 1:31.47 (1 Glory lap, Consistent 1:32.xxx) STOCK Sept 2013: 1:30.22 (Consistent 1:30.xx all day) Pedders springs, Intake Avg: 124 on the straight Added Brakes/19" wheels and 305 tires Sept 27, 2014: 1:29.43 Sept 28, 2014: 1:29.76 Averaged: 128 on the straight TIRES: :( So why not bigger gains/lower lap time? honestly I think it is the tires. the tires work, but they are not great. I think the stock Goodyears when hot are a much better tire. The are more sharp on turn in, they do not heat up as much and they feel better on the edge. Pads: Pads worked as expected. They are aggressive but allowed me to brake deeper than before. front calipers are now a nice shade of burnt gold. Other notable: Drove a new Hellcat that a friend named Ralph Gilles brought to the track along with his Viper. We go back about 16+years and his wife was my student in her GT3 that weekend. (He was running 1:22s in the Viper) The video of the Hellcat recently on Jalopnik is from the same weekend. I didn't push the car as it was not mine.....But it MOVES on the straight!!! Drove the 2007 GT3 on Race Tires on track.....UM YES PLEASE! not much more I need to say...(picture below: white helmet/blue shield) Yes, I have all 4 wheels off at about 80 MPH. there is a braking zone and then a right just after you touch back down. Tons of pictures on the link and a video from my fastest session. After the GTR let me by he chased me for two laps or so and I let him back by. He is also an experienced instructor and I was happy to be able to play with the GTR. Link to VIDEO: http://youtu.be/lsXANePEzdk Link to more pictures a friend took: https://picasaweb.google.com/1156469...eat=directlink . Attached Images __________________ My 1LE Build/Journal : http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351990

10-07-2014, 10:25 AM	#2
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Great pics. I love your "fly mode" picture. lol __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

10-10-2014, 04:31 AM	#12
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	The season is quickly coming to an end. Oregon Raceway Club is trying to organize one last track day before closing the season next week. I hope they do, so I can try the oil cooler and full Z/28 suspension (on 1LE wheels shod with G:2s this time). I hope I can make it! I checked out your video. The tires were squeaking so much! I did buy the same tires, and they look very nice to the eye; it's disappointing that they do not match the grip they promise. If only we had NT01s in 305/30/19; those tires are not the best in terms of grip, but they are very consistent. After all, if a tire quickly loses its grip (like R888s which are available), how can I know that the new way of taking a turn benefited me or not... I researched MPSC 2 tires, and they seem to be quite a bit slower than Trofeo Rs for the same money, so I don't think they're a good buy. I think I really need to decide if I should have just 1 set of wheels, or two. This applies to you, too. If you had two sets, you could elect to have Trofeo Rs on your Z/28 wheels, and Hankooks on another set (like APEX's ARC-8 19x10.5 wheels spin-forged @ 22.95 lbs that I am considering) for street use. Tires, and brakes: I don't like these subjects for Camaros : ) __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

10-10-2014, 01:35 PM	#14
cornerspeed92 Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,188 View My Garage	Nice Matt, and love the air time. What was your speed when you crested the to top of the rise? __________________

10-07-2014, 11:22 AM	#3
Cleancoupe Drives: 18 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 703	Nice run! That fly mode picture is awesome. Congrats on having the first lifted 1LE.

10-07-2014, 12:06 PM	#4
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	THAT picture in air is ! Will check out vid later tonight (cigarette).

10-07-2014, 12:28 PM	#5
LT1Zob Drives: 23 LT1 / 19 Z06 / after 6 5th gens Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MI Posts: 1,990 View My Garage	Awesome pics. Now need your help Matt. Was at Waterford Hills 2 weeks ago, had a blast. Except, all of the loose rubber on the track is now fused to my tires. Do I just drive it off?

10-07-2014, 02:20 PM	#7
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	Some guys get all the luck. Runs SRT, owns a Viper, has a wife with a GT3, and she drives it on the track. My wife on the other hand, tells me that I'm a pre-pubescent child every time I start the car.

10-07-2014, 04:09 PM	#10
SASQUATCHelvis Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 175 View My Garage	Great pictures! It looks like an awesome time. I'll have to make it out to Grattan next season.