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J_Vibe92 · 03-29-2013, 11:04 PM

I just installed the black ice here is my review and issues i had.

First off the back bolts are not as hard as it seems, just work at it and it will come off. Now after installing the permatex, i let it sit for about 10 minutes then i put the IM back on and waited about 1 hour and a half and test drove it. Here is where i had a problem.

the very back bolt apparently wasnt screwed all the way and my engine turned on and died before it could choke. I got some smoke too. NOTE TO EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU TIGHTEN THE BACK BOLT THAT GOES IN VERTICAL OR YOU WILL FREAK OUT WHEN YOU TURN ON THE ENGINE!!!!

Well I found it and retighten it. Also I broke a plenum bolt at 8lbft of TQ. so I guess I had a weak one. I torqued the big bolts to 18lb and the plenum ones to 10 and some 9 isssh. now i gotta take it somewhere to get the bolt out :(((((((((((((((((((((

well all in all, it was a interesting hands on job today. My engine had NO oil and only put in a catch can from Elite at 25K miles. Literally no oil at all. I was real happy.

IF anyone wants to know i got mine from SW Speeed from Ivan and he helped me out and is probably the best guy to contact with any problems. THANK YOU IVAN!

Well theres my review. next mod, headers from BBK

bandier · 03-29-2013, 11:12 PM

that's it??? you gotta say what the car ran like after you put it on.

J_Vibe92 · 03-29-2013, 11:14 PM

My bad, i thought i said it haha I just wrote this really quick. Well my first impression was it pulled pretty good after 30 mph. what really matters was after about 15 min of HARD pulling, back and forth from highways and stoplights, the IM was only at 101 F while before it was over 140F after a 15 min hard run.

J_Vibe92 · 03-29-2013, 11:42 PM

Curiosity since the Throttle body bolt was not resused, i just deleted the mount thing that connect the throttle body to the engine i guess. is that okay?

its a syn · 03-29-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J_Vibe92

Curiosity since the Throttle body bolt was not resused, i just deleted the mount thing that connect the throttle body to the engine i guess. is that okay?

yup.

J_Vibe92 · 03-29-2013, 11:58 PM

Ok good. lol

its a syn · 03-29-2013, 11:59 PM

I threw mine in with any other extra parts I've amassed with my different mods.

Lil' Nasty · 03-30-2013, 12:14 AM

Just make sure it's not threaded longer than the bolt you broke

rtcat600man · 03-30-2013, 07:12 AM

Congrats on the install. Sorry to hear about the broken bolt. Odd that a plenum bolt broke so easy. I had tighten mine probably too much as I was trying to torque them to speck, but at such a low number the TQ wrench was not doing it's "click" when there sound.

You can buy a set of easy out's to try and pull that broken bolt out. Do a search on the internet for broken bolts and easy outs. Pretty easy to do. And since the bolt was out already once, and not in there to tight, should come right back out. Good Luck, keep us informed on how it goes.

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 04-01-2013, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Vibe92

I just installed the black ice here is my review and issues i had.

First off the back bolts are not as hard as it seems, just work at it and it will come off. Now after installing the permatex, i let it sit for about 10 minutes then i put the IM back on and waited about 1 hour and a half and test drove it. Here is where i had a problem.

the very back bolt apparently wasnt screwed all the way and my engine turned on and died before it could choke. I got some smoke too. NOTE TO EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU TIGHTEN THE BACK BOLT THAT GOES IN VERTICAL OR YOU WILL FREAK OUT WHEN YOU TURN ON THE ENGINE!!!!

Well I found it and retighten it. Also I broke a plenum bolt at 8lbft of TQ. so I guess I had a weak one. I torqued the big bolts to 18lb and the plenum ones to 10 and some 9 isssh. now i gotta take it somewhere to get the bolt out :(((((((((((((((((((((

well all in all, it was a interesting hands on job today. My engine had NO oil and only put in a catch can from Elite at 25K miles. Literally no oil at all. I was real happy.

IF anyone wants to know i got mine from SW Speeed from Ivan and he helped me out and is probably the best guy to contact with any problems. THANK YOU IVAN!

Well theres my review. next mod, headers from BBK

You're welcome! Thank you and sorry to hear about your bolt issue.

If you need a replacement, drop me a PM and I'll send one out for ya. In case.

Again, really appreciate the time you took to mention us. Means alot.
Ivan & the SWS Team!

SC2150 · 04-01-2013, 02:38 PM

When you have the IM off, did you shine a light in the intake ports of the cylinder heads to look at your intake valves? Good job on all!

J_Vibe92 · 04-01-2013, 02:50 PM

Yeah. all spotless, literally

pgustavson · 04-01-2013, 06:43 PM

Did you install a plenum spacer too? Otherwise, why were plenum cover bolts removed?

J_Vibe92 · 04-01-2013, 09:33 PM

no i didnt install the plenum spacer and i removed them to get a full inspection of how much oil i have in my car. that an you have to remove most of them anyways

03-29-2013, 11:04 PM	#1
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	Vmax Black ICE issues and Review I just installed the black ice here is my review and issues i had. First off the back bolts are not as hard as it seems, just work at it and it will come off. Now after installing the permatex, i let it sit for about 10 minutes then i put the IM back on and waited about 1 hour and a half and test drove it. Here is where i had a problem. the very back bolt apparently wasnt screwed all the way and my engine turned on and died before it could choke. I got some smoke too. NOTE TO EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU TIGHTEN THE BACK BOLT THAT GOES IN VERTICAL OR YOU WILL FREAK OUT WHEN YOU TURN ON THE ENGINE!!!! Well I found it and retighten it. Also I broke a plenum bolt at 8lbft of TQ. so I guess I had a weak one. I torqued the big bolts to 18lb and the plenum ones to 10 and some 9 isssh. now i gotta take it somewhere to get the bolt out :((((((((((((((((((((( well all in all, it was a interesting hands on job today. My engine had NO oil and only put in a catch can from Elite at 25K miles. Literally no oil at all. I was real happy. IF anyone wants to know i got mine from SW Speeed from Ivan and he helped me out and is probably the best guy to contact with any problems. THANK YOU IVAN! Well theres my review. next mod, headers from BBK __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.

03-29-2013, 11:14 PM	#3
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	My bad, i thought i said it haha I just wrote this really quick. Well my first impression was it pulled pretty good after 30 mph. what really matters was after about 15 min of HARD pulling, back and forth from highways and stoplights, the IM was only at 101 F while before it was over 140F after a 15 min hard run. __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.

03-29-2013, 11:42 PM	#4
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	Curiosity since the Throttle body bolt was not resused, i just deleted the mount thing that connect the throttle body to the engine i guess. is that okay? __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.

03-29-2013, 11:58 PM	#6
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	Ok good. lol __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.

03-29-2013, 11:59 PM	#7
its a syn B.O.D. 02/16/10 Drives: 2010 SGM Sp. Edition 2017 RS Conver Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Albia,Iowa Posts: 3,959 View My Garage	I threw mine in with any other extra parts I've amassed with my different mods. __________________

03-29-2013, 11:12 PM	#2
bandier Got mine! Drives: 2021 LT1 RS - Orange Crush Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fallbrook, CA Posts: 1,298	that's it??? you gotta say what the car ran like after you put it on.

03-30-2013, 12:14 AM	#8
Lil' Nasty [COTW 4/13/15] Drives: Supercharged LLT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 5,957	Just make sure it's not threaded longer than the bolt you broke __________________ LiL' Nasty's Build Journal

03-30-2013, 07:12 AM	#9
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	Congrats on the install. Sorry to hear about the broken bolt. Odd that a plenum bolt broke so easy. I had tighten mine probably too much as I was trying to torque them to speck, but at such a low number the TQ wrench was not doing it's "click" when there sound. You can buy a set of easy out's to try and pull that broken bolt out. Do a search on the internet for broken bolts and easy outs. Pretty easy to do. And since the bolt was out already once, and not in there to tight, should come right back out. Good Luck, keep us informed on how it goes. __________________ MY BUILD

04-01-2013, 02:38 PM	#11
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	When you have the IM off, did you shine a light in the intake ports of the cylinder heads to look at your intake valves? Good job on all!

04-01-2013, 02:50 PM	#12
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	Yeah. all spotless, literally __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.

04-01-2013, 06:43 PM	#13
pgustavson Stop writing "vert", ffs! Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gambrills, MD Posts: 1,341 View My Garage	Did you install a plenum spacer too? Otherwise, why were plenum cover bolts removed? __________________ Vararam \| Vmax Ported TB \| Ported IM \| Vmax Black ICE-olator

04-01-2013, 09:33 PM	#14
J_Vibe92 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,788	no i didnt install the plenum spacer and i removed them to get a full inspection of how much oil i have in my car. that an you have to remove most of them anyways __________________ Performance Mods: Vararam Intake, MRTv2.0 exhaust, Elite Engineering CC, Vmax Black Iceolator, Vmax Ported TB, OBX LT Headers w/ no CATS, LMR Tune Visual mods: Eagle Eyes w/5k hids, Custom Hood Spears, Heritage Grille, Stage 2 LED Dome lights,Transformer Emblems, PD Bezels, 19in Chevy rims with pirellis, Blue painted calipers, GM GFX Front Splitter, 35/20 % Tint, TailLight Tint(charcoal) 1/4 Mile: 13.65 sec @ 102.53 mph R.I.P.