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eLeSthree · 02-12-2018, 11:02 AM

After talking with my tuner, I decided to go with their recommendation. Deatschwerks 90# injectors with my zl1 pump and JRE msd bap. The boost should be around 10psi, and we will add an aux pump when we go e85.

Ralph@ESSTuning · 02-12-2018, 11:09 AM

When is the install?

Bildo · 02-12-2018, 11:50 AM

I know its pricey but you save yourself the money in the long run just doing a full system for fuel. I spent all the money doing the ZL1 / CTSV pump, only to need more later. Squash, Fore, and AGP all make great aftermarket return style systems for our cars, and while injectors are expensive, they are advertised by distributors at the lowest advertised price they can, but if you call them you can usually get them significantly less than advertised pretty sure I picked mine up for almost 400 under MSRP from a site vendor.

eLeSthree · 02-12-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph@ESSTuning

When is the install?

The house guests leave tomorrow. I’ll probably knock it out saturday. Dont want to book the tune until I’m finished. I’ll get those pulleys back to you asap.

Ralph@ESSTuning · 02-12-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

The house guests leave tomorrow. I’ll probably knock it out saturday. Dont want to book the tune until I’m finished. I’ll get those pulleys back to you asap.

Awesome! Thanks

Gotit4cheap16 · 02-14-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

I bought bosch 210lb injectors. can be had new for around 500 ( I paid 460 shipped to my door for a new set) and a set of bosch to ev6 adapters($30). You'll also need the lpe lower oring adapters ($12)

don't overpay for injectors. these are the injectors that a lot of aftermarket companies "start" with to make their 2000cc injectors. lots of guys over on ls1tech use them, along with sloppy mechanics. good for over 1500whp on corn

I was told by numerous folks that those bosch 210s was overkill for an lsa build and would be hard to tune and idle right on an lsa build car especially on e85..flex fuel smh. Is that true?

ttshovel · 02-14-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotit4cheap16

I was told by numerous folks that those bosch 210s was overkill for an lsa build and would be hard to tune and idle right on an lsa build car especially on e85..flex fuel smh. Is that true?

there's tons of guys that run them in turbo 5.3s... they would be fine if you're running e85. pump gas probably not so much

Gotit4cheap16 · 02-14-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

there's tons of guys that run them in turbo 5.3s... they would be fine if you're running e85. pump gas probably not so much

Well I plan on running flex Fuel. Will it be fine for that?

ttshovel · 02-14-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotit4cheap16

Well I plan on running flex Fuel. Will it be fine for that?

yes sir!

Gotit4cheap16 · 02-14-2018, 08:08 PM

Awesome thanks

phat9le · 02-14-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

there's tons of guys that run them in turbo 5.3s... they would be fine if you're running e85. pump gas probably not so much

ttshovel, did you tune the 210s yourself? Also, when you bought them were they flow matched or just run of the mill? I've heard that off the shelf, the 210s can very 3% to 5%.

ttshovel · 02-15-2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by phat9le

ttshovel, did you tune the 210s yourself? Also, when you bought them were they flow matched or just run of the mill? I've heard that off the shelf, the 210s can very 3% to 5%.

my car isn't currently running. waiting to get it back from the fab shop. I'm using a software that had individual cylinder enrichment so if they're off its not a big deal to me. but in a stock ecm application you would tune off your leanest cylinder.

I wouldn't believe everything you hear about these injectors though. lots of misinformation out there. people knocking them that haven't tried them to justify the money they spent on overpriced id injectors. there is no reason to pay that much for injectors. check out sloppy mechanics and their public page. tons of high hp, 5.3s and 6.0s running them without issue. hope this helps

JANNETTYRACING · 02-15-2018, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

my car isn't currently running. waiting to get it back from the fab shop. I'm using a software that had individual cylinder enrichment so if they're off its not a big deal to me. but in a stock ecm application you would tune off your leanest cylinder.

I wouldn't believe everything you hear about these injectors though. lots of misinformation out there. people knocking them that haven't tried them to justify the money they spent on overpriced id injectors. there is no reason to pay that much for injectors. check out sloppy mechanics and their public page. tons of high hp, 5.3s and 6.0s running them without issue. hope this helps

I say this respectfully.

High horsepower is the easy part, Idle quality, throttle response, fuel economy smoothness, ease of tuning, are all related to the quality of the injectors.

You do get what you pay for.

Ted.

Punisher_ATX · 02-15-2018, 11:17 AM

Im going with the 210's myself. Respectfully Ill say that A a compotent tuner should be able to get these to work correctly and B if someone is going turbo or big power to the point that they need these. Fuel economy means nothing to them anymore. I myself am going S482 turbo and e85 with a th400. WHAT FUEL ECONOMY lol

02-12-2018, 11:02 AM	#15
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	After talking with my tuner, I decided to go with their recommendation. Deatschwerks 90# injectors with my zl1 pump and JRE msd bap. The boost should be around 10psi, and we will add an aux pump when we go e85. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

02-12-2018, 11:50 AM	#17
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I know its pricey but you save yourself the money in the long run just doing a full system for fuel. I spent all the money doing the ZL1 / CTSV pump, only to need more later. Squash, Fore, and AGP all make great aftermarket return style systems for our cars, and while injectors are expensive, they are advertised by distributors at the lowest advertised price they can, but if you call them you can usually get them significantly less than advertised pretty sure I picked mine up for almost 400 under MSRP from a site vendor. __________________ 2012 2SS M6, ERL Superdeck 6 427, PRC 255 Heads, Procharger F1A w/ 3.85 pulley, 1300hp intercooler, Squash Dual 450lph, E85, ID1700, RXT Clutch, DSS 1pc driveshaft, GForce axles, Eaton Detroit Trutrac, a bunch of other crap I don't feel like typing.

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Ralph@ESSTuning Drives: 5th Gen Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Arizona Posts: 61	When is the install?

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Gotit4cheap16 Drives: Victory Red Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 175	Awesome thanks

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Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	Im going with the 210's myself. Respectfully Ill say that A a compotent tuner should be able to get these to work correctly and B if someone is going turbo or big power to the point that they need these. Fuel economy means nothing to them anymore. I myself am going S482 turbo and e85 with a th400. WHAT FUEL ECONOMY lol