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Old 06-22-2013, 01:27 PM   #5265
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But I do know that I disagree strongly with suggesting that a gun enthusiast who has a differing opinion than yours is a 'Joe Biden Comrade'. That would be the same thing as me replying to you with "you're a wannabe Operator". How does that advance the discussion?
The point wasn't the comment. The point was they don't give any reference to support any of their claims. Like... a double barrel shotgun is better? I'm not calling anybody anything. I'm just saying that's the only times I've ever heard that argument about an AR being a poor home defense weapon. Always opinions, but nothing to back up the opinions.

I always love to learn, and reserve the right to alter my opinion when presented with new evidence. That's what I'm looking for, and have not ever been presented with any evidence that really supports an AR being a poor home defense weapon. In fact, I always read the contrary... with the one generally accepted point that there can be a disadvantage going through your house with a long gun... of any kind. And even that... I'm not convinced.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:00 AM   #5266
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I know you've posted it before but I don't get tired of looking at it!
Thanks...definitely one of my favorites. How can you go wrong with 16 rounds of .45?
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #5267
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My .02 is from experience and insight from others with first hand experience. Also on a civilian side with neighbors I just do not understand that mentality that would tell you that an AR would be a good firearm to choose when you do not know what is beyond your target. I am not here to argue or prove my point...just my .02

The FNX 45 is a great sidearm...just add a light and you are good to go!
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:16 PM   #5268
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:38 PM   #5269
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:01 AM   #5270
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My thoughts are, if someone is breaking into my house and I have the choice between grabbing my shotgun, my carbine, or my pistol, I'll grab the pistol every time.

This choice has nothing to do with penetration of walls or stopping power, but everything to do with how maneuverable the firearm is. If I have to walk into a hallway and do a 180° sweep (look both left and right quickly) I need much less space than I do with a shotgun or carbine.

Plus, when coming up on a corner, the bad guy doesn't have the potential of seeing 12" of barrel and firearm prior to seeing me.

You can purchase all kinds of different home defense rounds for pistols that should either break up or have significant drop in kinetic energy after hitting a wall.

While I agree that it's your job to know what's behind the target you're aiming at, that's hardly the thing you're going to be worried about when that situation presents itself. You will be focused on one thing and one thing only: the intruder. And in that situation, you should have in your hands the weapon that you are most familiar with, regardless of whether it's a pistol, a shotgun, a carbine, a crossbow, a bow and arrow, a rock, a knife, or a rolling pin, etcetera. Whatever you're handy with, it's your job to know that the ammo you have for home defense is designed specifically for home defense. Beyond that, you're just making a blind guess at how the circumstances will turn out.

I keep two full magazines of home defense ammo for each firearm I have at the ready in case they're needed. The only thing the FMJ ammo does is sit in the box until it gets taken to the range for practice. That's the only thing that would ever worry me about any neighbors that exercise their 2nd amendment right.
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:43 AM   #5271
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Very good CamaroSkooter - true for peeling corners, etc. Excellent ammo options for home defense for the pistol.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #5272
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Good stuff skooter... only thing I would change would be, most familiar, to, most dependable.

Another important consideration is how a B&E occurs. They usually happen so fast, your choice will be limited to what's handy.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:59 PM   #5273
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I feel I need this... And I don't even have a place to shoot my 7mm
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:50 AM   #5274
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I feel I need this... And I don't even have a place to shoot my 7mm
I bet I know why he is selling it. He can't afford to shoot it anymore. At the gun show last weekend I was talking to a vendor about how much ammo has gone up in price. He showed me a box of 338 lupua and it was $150 for a box of 20.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:33 AM   #5275
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I feel I need this... And I don't even have a place to shoot my 7mm
I say contact the seller if it's not a scam it would be a good buy at $2700.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:56 AM   #5276
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I feel I need this... And I don't even have a place to shoot my 7mm
Yea...that's definitely a nice deal.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:47 PM   #5277
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Avoid the Savage .338s. I have heard plenty about brass sticking in the chamber and the barrel is too light so it heats up way too fast.
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I think I retract my desire for a .338... DAMN AMMO IS EXPENSIVE. .300 win mag it is...
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