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Rage · 08-10-2011, 02:07 PM

Sorry to beat a dead horse.... on the ARH site the gains are like 32 RWHP with no tune and 50 RWHP with a tune. Most of the other headers im researching gain about 25-35 with a tune. Now im looking into Stainless works headers due to some good reviews(mostly regarding fit and finish). Anyone have experience with these? What kind of gains should I expect with 1 7/8 headers, no cats and a tune? I have a LS3 with a CAI inc intake and only a muffler delete at the moment.

MatchbookSS · 08-10-2011, 02:18 PM

I have the 1 7/8" headers, C.A.I. Intake with HF cats and a tune. Nothing else. I made the power in my sig. Sorry, no baseline though...

The headers though, have colored in nicely, and sound great at WOT, though since I'm still running the stock catback, very tame at part throttle or under 3k RPMs....

HP Addicts · 08-10-2011, 03:10 PM

Both American Racing Headers and Stainless Works make amazing products, I have a set of Stainless Work's headers on my personal car but would run either companies products without hesitation. If you have any specific questions or would like a quote feel free to contact us!

Rcfiddy1 · 08-10-2011, 03:24 PM

I have SW 1-7/8s with high flow cats,solo mach xl, and CAI intake with a Custom tune ran 12.52 and 1.8-60' on stock P-zeros before the supercharger. Love the sound!!!!!

MarylandSpeed · 08-10-2011, 04:47 PM

They both are pretty good and will perform similar IMO. I would say roll with the one you get the best deal on.

Apex Motorsports · 08-10-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Addicts

Both American Racing Headers and Stainless Works make amazing products,

+1 I personally prefer Stainless Works but you can't make a bad decision in this case.

Juiced1 · 08-10-2011, 05:18 PM

The long system from ARH would probably work the best for your set up but bottom line is they are both top notch, quality American made long tube headers.

doomsdayjesus081 · 08-10-2011, 06:36 PM

I currently run the ARH 1 7/8" headers and catless long system into a flowmaster outlaw axleback. I had a definite noticeable gain with just the headers and long system. After tune there was another definite gain and after swapping stock mufflers for flowmaster outlaw series there was another small gain. My car has never been on a dyno, however by means of the butt dyno and practical application the car is a lot faster.

Bbrock25 · 08-10-2011, 08:55 PM

I got my ARH about a month ago, and put them on 2 weeks ago and I couldn't be happier! And Nick over at ARH is a fantastic guy to deal with! ARH IMO but as the others have said I'm sure you can't go wrong with either.

sting808 · 08-10-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Sorry to beat a dead horse.... on the ARH site the gains are like 32 RWHP with no tune and 50 RWHP with a tune. Most of the other headers im researching gain about 25-35 with a tune. Now im looking into Stainless works headers due to some good reviews(mostly regarding fit and finish). Anyone have experience with these? What kind of gains should I expect with 1 7/8 headers, no cats and a tune? I have a LS3 with a CAI inc intake and only a muffler delete at the moment.

I had Halltech CAI, ARH 1-7/8" w/CATs and ARH axel back. No tune made 418rwhp SAE. Don't have tune #s since I added more to car before tuning. From Jannetty's LT tests, cat or no cats had little or no effects on HP #s.

Had MBRP cat back with ARH, but it was too loud for me and the wife. Too much drone, too. MBRP was a good sounding stand-alone cat back system, no LTs. If you like it loud, ARH LT w/MBRP 3" is a great combo.

Hard to go wrong with ARH, SW or Kooks. Those were my choices when I started. I went with ARH since I heard their complete system in-person and liked the sound. Customer support is #1 with ARH in my books. Always answers their phone and VERY GOOD follow-up.

SmittyTuck · 08-10-2011, 11:13 PM

Sting...You mentioned Kooks, I have heard alot of great things about them and have been keeping them in mind for sometime now. Anyone have good or bad things to say versus ARH or SW? thanks

sting808 · 08-10-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmittyTuck

Sting...You mentioned Kooks, I have heard alot of great things about them and have been keeping them in mind for sometime now. Anyone have good or bad things to say versus ARH or SW? thanks

I think all of the "major" players have good products and similar proven technologies used. Check out Tag's threads for his SW experience. I've seen the Kooks products firsthand, but ended up with ARH after personally hearing the complete system. Nothing bad to say about SW or Kooks.

My wife did get on my case when I had the ARH w/MBRP. Too loud for her and she hated riding in "my" car. It did drone a bit with the LTs so I sold the MBRP and got the ARH complete cat back system. No regrets.

Snake Slayer · 08-11-2011, 07:56 AM

I have owned both products and you cant go wrong. I personally choose SW due to price and quality. APEX had the best pricing.

SmittyTuck · 08-11-2011, 08:53 AM

ummmm good to know thanks! how about size? looking to get that LOUD V8 crackle!

08-10-2011, 03:24 PM	#4
Rcfiddy1 Sold car... Drives: 2010 Rally Yellow 2SS/RS #37115 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Manalapan, New Jersey Posts: 2,019 View My Garage	I have SW 1-7/8s with high flow cats,solo mach xl, and CAI intake with a Custom tune ran 12.52 and 1.8-60' on stock P-zeros before the supercharger. Love the sound!!!!! __________________ Build Thread ECS Novi 1500 Supercharged, LS3 conversion, Small blower cam, Alky Meth injection, 3:45 rear, BMR Suspension parts, 1LE Sways, Billy Boat ZL1 dual mode exhaust.

08-10-2011, 08:55 PM	#9
Bbrock25 Drives: 2010 1SS/RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Ky Posts: 704	I got my ARH about a month ago, and put them on 2 weeks ago and I couldn't be happier! And Nick over at ARH is a fantastic guy to deal with! ARH IMO but as the others have said I'm sure you can't go wrong with either. __________________

08-11-2011, 07:56 AM	#13
Snake Slayer Drives: Awaiting 2014 C7 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 902	I have owned both products and you cant go wrong. I personally choose SW due to price and quality. APEX had the best pricing. __________________ Awaiting 2014 C7

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Rage TRI-COUNTY CAMARO... FTW! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Cyber Grey Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,200 View My Garage	ARH or SW headers? Sorry to beat a dead horse.... on the ARH site the gains are like 32 RWHP with no tune and 50 RWHP with a tune. Most of the other headers im researching gain about 25-35 with a tune. Now im looking into Stainless works headers due to some good reviews(mostly regarding fit and finish). Anyone have experience with these? What kind of gains should I expect with 1 7/8 headers, no cats and a tune? I have a LS3 with a CAI inc intake and only a muffler delete at the moment. __________________ CAI inc. cold air intake, LG G6x3 cam, Patriot Gold Extreme Dual springs, Titanium retainers and locks, LG SuperPro 1 7/8 Long Tube headers with full 3" exhaust, DynoMax VT mufflers, SLP 4" tips, Moroso catch can, Race Ready electronic exhaust cut outs, Full painted Razzi body kit, Headlight Armor Smoke taillight and marker blackouts, T-Rex aluminum upper and lower grille, Polished aluminum front and rear bowties. Professionally installed and Dyno Tuned by HorsePower Sales, Pompano Beach FL.

08-10-2011, 02:18 PM	#2
MatchbookSS Drives: 2011 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Here and there Posts: 390	I have the 1 7/8" headers, C.A.I. Intake with HF cats and a tune. Nothing else. I made the power in my sig. Sorry, no baseline though... The headers though, have colored in nicely, and sound great at WOT, though since I'm still running the stock catback, very tame at part throttle or under 3k RPMs....

08-10-2011, 03:10 PM	#3
HP Addicts Drives: N/A Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Delray Beach, FL Posts: 898	Both American Racing Headers and Stainless Works make amazing products, I have a set of Stainless Work's headers on my personal car but would run either companies products without hesitation. If you have any specific questions or would like a quote feel free to contact us!

08-10-2011, 04:47 PM	#5
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	They both are pretty good and will perform similar IMO. I would say roll with the one you get the best deal on.

08-10-2011, 05:18 PM	#7
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	The long system from ARH would probably work the best for your set up but bottom line is they are both top notch, quality American made long tube headers.

08-10-2011, 06:36 PM	#8
doomsdayjesus081 Drives: VR 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New York Posts: 132	I currently run the ARH 1 7/8" headers and catless long system into a flowmaster outlaw axleback. I had a definite noticeable gain with just the headers and long system. After tune there was another definite gain and after swapping stock mufflers for flowmaster outlaw series there was another small gain. My car has never been on a dyno, however by means of the butt dyno and practical application the car is a lot faster.

08-10-2011, 11:13 PM	#11
SmittyTuck Drives: a couple Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 47	Sting...You mentioned Kooks, I have heard alot of great things about them and have been keeping them in mind for sometime now. Anyone have good or bad things to say versus ARH or SW? thanks

08-11-2011, 08:53 AM	#14
SmittyTuck Drives: a couple Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 47	ummmm good to know thanks! how about size? looking to get that LOUD V8 crackle!