At what point do you realize it's just too much power? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

big dave · 05-23-2015, 05:50 PM

I've always said I'll stop modding my cars when it scares me to drive it. The stock ZL1, to me, is just too tame. The factory tires do make the car "interesting" to drive, but besides that factor, it just isn't enough.

Some of the guys on this site are making some outrageous power, how you guys have the nerve to handle anything over 800 hp I'll never know. I have the bug to start modding, but where it stops with this car I really don't know.

I'm wondering at what point did you realize "I think I may have gone a bit overboard"?

Ron_Robinson1 · 05-23-2015, 06:06 PM

It never does. I bought my Z cause I thought it was a perfect car, after I sold my 2011 Camaro SS. It was SuperCharged, cammed, LT, alky control, mantic clutch, axels , etc etc. I said never again. Now look at me, It never ends.

LuckyZL-1 · 05-23-2015, 06:11 PM

Too much is better than not enough! I have no problem telling someone I couldn't get any traction, matter of fact I have too much traction again time for the next level!! LOL

Redlineviper · 05-23-2015, 06:13 PM

The answer to that question varies on your driving skill, the way you drive (some guys never go over the speed limit and just go to car shows) and the way you have the car set up.

My car on factory tires will blows the tires loose anything under 75-80 in hot weather and 100 in cooler weather. To me that is getting to the point where additional power is unneeded on the street. I track my cars though so I could use another 3-500hp at the track with sticky tires.

oldfriend · 05-23-2015, 06:57 PM

The moment that you realize that is too much power , it's already too late

DarthZL1 · 05-23-2015, 07:28 PM

Horsepower is like drug addiction. You get used to the dose you're currently taking... and crave more. My ZL1 only has 3900 miles, at first the power was plenty for me... now I want more.

Signalman54 · 05-23-2015, 07:32 PM

When it becomes a money pit and you over spend your budget and the car is no longer a joy to drive on the street.

willhe64 · 05-23-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Signalman54

When it becomes a money pit and you over spend your budget and the car is no longer a joy to drive on the street.

This, the voice of reason right here.

Bigtime53 · 05-23-2015, 08:22 PM

That is a great question. I bought a new 13 model Z and I drove it about 2400 miles before I started mods on it. One time I was driving it when it was stock and went to pass a car at 62 mph and I floored the gas pedal and the car got loose. I said then I would not touch it but like what was said above you think,gosh just a little more hp and this car will really be bad ass! Well I took it to andy at ADM in texas and it left there with over 800 hp at the motor and 711 at the rear wheels. Now I had to use caution with the car because even at half throttle the car would spin the tires and it would make you give it your full attention while driving it. You sure did not want to hit it hard passing another car but you did not have to because it had more than enough at half throttle. I sold that car because I just was not comfortable driving it. I bought another Z that I have now and it is all stock and I am leaving it that way. No more mods for me.

big dave · 05-23-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime53

That is a great question. I bought a new 13 model Z and I drove it about 2400 miles before I started mods on it. One time I was driving it when it was stock and went to pass a car at 62 mph and I floored the gas pedal and the car got loose. I said then I would not touch it but like what was said above you think,gosh just a little more hp and this car will really be bad ass! Well I took it to andy at ADM in texas and it left there with over 800 hp at the motor and 711 at the rear wheels. Now I had to use caution with the car because even at half throttle the car would spin the tires and it would make you give it your full attention while driving it. You sure did not want to hit it hard passing another car but you did not have to because it had more than enough at half throttle. I sold that car because I just was not comfortable driving it. I bought another Z that I have now and it is all stock and I am leaving it that way. No more mods for me.

Wow, it sounds like you answered my question perfectly. You modded in excess, realized you made a mistake, then bought a more sane replacement. I've had quite a few "pucker" moments with just the stock car. I'm sure the car would be much more enjoyable with a set of drag radials, considering I'm more of a straight line kinda guy. The F1s just don't cut it at anything more than stock hp.

big dave · 05-23-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Signalman54

When it becomes a money pit and you over spend your budget and the car is no longer a joy to drive on the street.

I know exactly what you mean, I have one of those already.

KaBoom1701 · 05-23-2015, 09:44 PM

I'll stop exactly at 985rwhp.

Garrett Custom · 05-23-2015, 10:45 PM

You know you've crossed the line between too much power and not enough when this happens.

KaBoom1701 · 05-23-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrett Custom

You know you've crossed the line between too much power and not enough when this happens.

This is why you don't use PTM #5 unless you know what your doing. lol

05-23-2015, 05:50 PM	#1
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	At what point do you realize it's just too much power? I've always said I'll stop modding my cars when it scares me to drive it. The stock ZL1, to me, is just too tame. The factory tires do make the car "interesting" to drive, but besides that factor, it just isn't enough. Some of the guys on this site are making some outrageous power, how you guys have the nerve to handle anything over 800 hp I'll never know. I have the bug to start modding, but where it stops with this car I really don't know. I'm wondering at what point did you realize "I think I may have gone a bit overboard"? __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab

05-23-2015, 06:06 PM	#2
Ron_Robinson1 Drives: A Static line to a pack tray & ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Centeral NY Posts: 2,276	It never does. I bought my Z cause I thought it was a perfect car, after I sold my 2011 Camaro SS. It was SuperCharged, cammed, LT, alky control, mantic clutch, axels , etc etc. I said never again. Now look at me, It never ends. __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10: 8.84 @ 156 PB 2017 ZL1 A10: Previously FBO 756/761 (9.6 @ 143 1/4) SOLD-2013 ZL1 M6:BTR,LTs,IDs,ATI,RotoFab10.84@129 SOLD-2011 SS M6: Blower, Cam, Alky, LTs.

05-23-2015, 06:11 PM	#3
LuckyZL-1 Ragtop Rocket!!! Drives: Black on Black Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 809	Too much is better than not enough! I have no problem telling someone I couldn't get any traction, matter of fact I have too much traction again time for the next level!! LOL __________________ ADM built 2013 Triple Black ZL-1 Convertible M6 ADM custom cam, LPE stage 2 heads with dual valve springs, LS-3 ported throttle body, LPE 2 piece pulley, LPE overdrive balancer, 10% overdrive pulley, ported supercharger inlet, ADM race intake system, stainless works 1-7/8 headers, Injector Dynamics injectors, ADM heat exchanger, ADM dual fuel pump system, ADM exhaust switch, ADM 3 tunes tuning package. 744rwhp 727rwtq

05-23-2015, 06:13 PM	#4
Redlineviper Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Orlando Posts: 936	The answer to that question varies on your driving skill, the way you drive (some guys never go over the speed limit and just go to car shows) and the way you have the car set up. My car on factory tires will blows the tires loose anything under 75-80 in hot weather and 100 in cooler weather. To me that is getting to the point where additional power is unneeded on the street. I track my cars though so I could use another 3-500hp at the track with sticky tires. __________________ 2013 A6 ZL1

05-23-2015, 07:28 PM	#6
DarthZL1 Drives: 2014 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 331 View My Garage	Horsepower is like drug addiction. You get used to the dose you're currently taking... and crave more. My ZL1 only has 3900 miles, at first the power was plenty for me... now I want more. __________________ --- DarthZL1 - 2014 ZL1 #2095 M6 Black. Bone Stock --- --- BigNLo - 1996 Impala SS Hot Rod Black. Lots of mods ---

05-23-2015, 06:57 PM	#5
oldfriend Drives: Fiat 500 E Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 32.7607/N. 16.95947/W Posts: 7,816 View My Garage	The moment that you realize that is too much power , it's already too late

05-23-2015, 07:32 PM	#7
Signalman54 Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray m6 ZL1 camaro Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 16 View My Garage	When it becomes a money pit and you over spend your budget and the car is no longer a joy to drive on the street.

05-23-2015, 08:22 PM	#9
Bigtime53 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,298	That is a great question. I bought a new 13 model Z and I drove it about 2400 miles before I started mods on it. One time I was driving it when it was stock and went to pass a car at 62 mph and I floored the gas pedal and the car got loose. I said then I would not touch it but like what was said above you think,gosh just a little more hp and this car will really be bad ass! Well I took it to andy at ADM in texas and it left there with over 800 hp at the motor and 711 at the rear wheels. Now I had to use caution with the car because even at half throttle the car would spin the tires and it would make you give it your full attention while driving it. You sure did not want to hit it hard passing another car but you did not have to because it had more than enough at half throttle. I sold that car because I just was not comfortable driving it. I bought another Z that I have now and it is all stock and I am leaving it that way. No more mods for me.

05-23-2015, 09:44 PM	#12
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I'll stop exactly at 985rwhp. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.