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01-04-2010, 05:55 PM | #101 |
A cheap fix, that is just substandard GM. I hope GM is reading all this, Brembo should be mad as hell. That is there name on the break as well. Very disappointing so called fix, it needs to get better. I bought this car because of the so called quality GM??
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01-04-2010, 06:24 PM | #102 |
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You are not going to purchase a car this year that runs 9.90's in the 1/4 mile while also carrying all or your inlaws and getting 34 MPG at the same time. I don't care how much you spend on it or how much money you have. Sometimes there is a trade off between performance and practicality that cannot be transcended. I am sure that in given time there will be a brake pad available for this car that will be more "practical" (Won't stop as well, especially when hot, but won't squeak near as much either)
I am no engineer, however I have extensive experience with full out race cars with very expensive braking systems and they squeak like you would never believe. I am sure many of you watch NASCAR, next time you watch a pitstop on TV, listen closely as the car rolls to a stop in the pit box. I am not saying that the noise shouldn't be improved on the camaro because it should. I guess my point is that some of you guys purchased a high performance car with high performance brakes for under $40k that outperforms many higher priced cars, but you are outraged that it doesen't ride like a Lexus, accelerate like a top fuel dragster, brake better than a F1 car, with the fuel mileage of a Prius. Alot of people wonder why it is so difficult for carmakers to produce an affordable performance car such as the camaro. I am sorry to tell you that these sort of complaints are what deters manufacturers from actually giving us these better parts on our stock vehicles. If a GM engineer is reading your posts he is thinking that they should of put the LT calipers on all the cars, that way they would not be getting any complaints.. Bottom line is this, be patient , if this problem persists someone WILL develop a low performance pad/rotor combination for this car that makes no noise at all. Meanwhile, be thankful that GM had the nads to actually put real brakes on a car that cost less than $40k........ Just my opinion........... |
01-04-2010, 08:37 PM | #103 |
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Why is everybody offended by the wheel weights? They don't seem to cause problems while driving or braking. Who cares? I think you all are blowing this way out of proportion.
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01-04-2010, 09:25 PM | #104 | |
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And you guys may want to check the calipers on some of the more expensive cars. They use a very siimilar design to what the Camaro now has. So quit bashing GM. This is a typical industry wide solution.
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01-05-2010, 08:38 AM | #105 | |
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Pay attention! This thread is about the weights on the brakes, not about the brake pads. The issue was that the weights were glued on and people were afraid they'd fall off (and some people actually had them fall off).
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01-05-2010, 10:13 AM | #106 |
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yes... if these rollerskates are riveted on then i don't care what they look like.
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01-05-2010, 01:19 PM | #107 |
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Really??? It sure looked like a discussion of the latest incarnation of damper to me (hence the thread title). The current fix, of course, is actually riveted to the brake pad back plate now, just like with several other Brembo-equipped cars. No glue, no runs, no drips, no errors...
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01-05-2010, 01:25 PM | #108 | |
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Brake bed-in is woefully neglected even by the manufacturers these days. It needs to be done for the brakes to work their best and to promote smoother, quieter operation. Also, don't be afraid to take them out once in a while to have fun and get them good and warm. Slow speed rubbing breaks down the pad transfer layer on the rotor friction surface, leading to decreased stopping power and sometimes extra brake noise. This is still a first-year car. I'm sure in future model years that adjustments will continue to be made. Chris |
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sure sounds like you're talking about how the pad is attached to the back plate, not how the weights are attached to anything.
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this car is a freaking BEAST !! let's stop our knit picking and drive the damn thing !! |
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01-05-2010, 01:58 PM | #111 |
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Your suggestion has been taken under advisement. Good quality pads have not been riveted to back plates for many, many years. They have never been glued. Sorry for any confusion caused by my direct reply to the question regarding the weights.
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