11-19-2008, 05:28 PM | #29 | |
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I have always been able to acheive better mileage in all my cars (All GM too ) then they were rated at. Of course I also get worse than what they rate them at when I drive like I stole it. Just a few examples of some of the vehicles I have owned: my '99 LS1 Trans Am 6speed was rated at like 26mpg hwy.. I was able to get 29mpg consitently with it and 32mpg on a few trips even. My '96 LT1 Z28 6 speed was rated at like 26 I beleive too.. and even with 3.73's vs. the stock 3.42's I STILL was able to get 28-29mpg hwy. My 96 Grand Am SE with the 3100 v6 I had for a winter car.. could get 33-35mpg hwy all day long! My 2006 Trailblazer rated at 21mpg hwy I beleive.. was able to get 25mpg when it was stock (now with larger A/T tires and aftermarket wheels I get 22-23mpg hwy, which is still higher than the factory rating.) Point is, if you look at the estimates on the window sticker it has the big number in bold, but in fine print below it, it states a range you can expect to get.. ussually 3-4mpg below and above the actual rating. If you drive like your out for a sunday drive you can definately get better mileage, if you drive like a racecar driver, expect much worse So I predict the V6 camaro will definately be capable of 29-31mpg on highway trips if you are driving good for sure. |
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11-19-2008, 05:36 PM | #30 | |
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With the new EPA fuel economy calculations that went into effect for 2008, you have to drive very fast (and pretty bad) to get less than the big numbers on the sticker.
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According to http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6767 the V6 version has a Cd of .36 and the V8 version has .35. That's pretty nasty, lots of SUVs have better Cd (but larger frontal area). Apparently the hybrid Tahoe has .349: The 5th gen Camaro's high drag coefficient is probably mainly the result of that huge parachute of a grille in the front. It looks great, but the 2000 model with no grille at all scored .32 (the same as my VW Rabbit). Actually, by looking at it I'd guess that particular Camaro is closer to .30, but who knows... Then again, according to that same thread, .34 for a C6 ZO6...how the hell is a Z06 less sleek than my VW? For reference, my ugly goofy looking pregnant rollerskate VW with .32 Cd:
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a regulat c6 has a lower CD than your VW. the reason a Z06 doesnt is because they put things on it like a chin spoiler. this increases down force to make the Z06 a better track car, but consiquently increases drag.
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The RX-8 curb weight is about 3,100 pounds. |
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It doesn't have a better power to weight, though. Don't know how I missed this before.
Camaro V6: .08 hp/lb RX8: .07 hp/lb The Camaro is a little better. Also, doesn't the RX8 use a rotary engine? Two TOTALLY different animals. |
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It is a very different kind of engine. It has no low end torque whatsoever, all the power is in the high RPMs. But it's super solid at the high RPMs, it doesn't feel like a motor that youre about to blow up, you can hit 9000 rpms in the thing and it just GOES
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I have a feeling that if you keep your foot out of the V6 and just cruize, lean burn mode will carry you a lot higher than the EPA ratings.
I'm somewhat worried that the EPA will drive the car too fast when they test it for lean burn mode to kick in. - Xanthos P.S. - and downforce is basically deliberate drag - thats why the Z06 is as high as it is. P.P.S. - Every time I see the title of this thread I think "oh great, another person complaining about the mpg numbers."
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It's kinda like students taking tests...you can have a student whose teachers teach to the test so he learns how to take the test, who gets great scores and is worthless in the workplace, and you can have a failing student who learned how to actually get stuff done and produces real results. Pasted from http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml (and edited for formatting / display appropriate to this forum, as well as adding emphasis). Quote:
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...if the EPA tests it at all. The EPA might just accept GM's tests, which still have to be done at specified speeds anyway.
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