Went to GM today - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Mellish50 · 01-19-2011, 07:20 PM

Hey everyone

Just wanted to say what happened today and express my unhappiness.

I went to GM to look at upgrading my 2LT to a 2SS and I asked for what I could get trade in value wise. To try and paint the shitty news i got a bit better, My LT was fully equipped with GFX, sunroof, RS Package and only had 5000km on it.

In 6 months the value of my car went from 44,000 to 25,000 even though its in beautiful condition. Maybe I'm being a bit naive about this but it felt like an honest to god kick in the nuts.

Just thought I'd share this experience with you guys. Still love GM, just a bad day with next to no hope in upgrading... lol

BackinBlackSS/RS · 01-19-2011, 07:22 PM

Your dealer was just trying to screw you. Use www.nada.com to find out what your car is worth.

2010 SS RS · 01-19-2011, 07:29 PM

I totally agree that your dealer was low balling the price to you..Go elsewhere and good luck.

It does look like the 2lt does not hold its value as well as the SS though.

mikel441 · 01-19-2011, 07:56 PM

Ditto......Move on.

2010 SSRS · 01-19-2011, 08:04 PM

find another dealer

SSAINT · 01-20-2011, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Your dealer was just trying to screw you. Use www.nada.com to find out what your car is worth.

Yeah try to tell a dealer what NADA says you car is worth...In my experience, you'll get laughed out of the dealership and it will be like they never heard of NADA. Around here they use the "Black Book" which is available online for a fee. Those values are MUCH less than NADA, KBB or Edmunds. That will give you a more realistic idea of what you could expect on a trade. Try to sell it on your own...Good Luck!

pony · 01-20-2011, 09:06 AM

If you paid $44k for a 2LT with those options, you got screwed from the start!

2010 2-Tone · 01-20-2011, 09:08 AM

If you paid 44,000 for a 2LT with those options, you paid too much. He is alittle low on the offer though.

skraemer · 01-20-2011, 10:56 AM

He lives in Canada. I'm sure that is why he paid that much. But his situation in American dollars is like if I paid $30k for a 2LT and 5000 miles later only being offered $17k for it.

*Milk 1027* · 01-20-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

I totally agree that your dealer was low balling the price to you..Go elsewhere and good luck.

It does look like the 2lt does not hold its value as well as the SS though.

I think the V6 is more common now that most enthusiasts have theirs.

JCL-2SS · 01-20-2011, 11:23 AM

44,000.00 CAD = 44,048.39 USD

1 CAD = 1.00110 USD 1 USD = 0.998901 CAD

Orange Krate · 01-20-2011, 12:12 PM

Camaros will litter the landscape in a year or so for $15-20K when gas hits 5 bucks a gallon. Better hang on to it and just drive it!

GreenWithEnvy · 01-20-2011, 12:12 PM

Yea the dealers try to use "Black Book", which is whole sale prices on the car... it basically is what they could get out of it if they took it to an auction. It's the easiest way for them to screw you and make a huge profit on the car... now that you know what one dealer is going to give you go to kbb.com or nada.com and come up with a fair price in between those two prices.

The Viz · 01-20-2011, 12:34 PM

Most dealers don't even go by Black Book or NADA anymore. The more realistic standard to them is the Manheim Auctions. If a car is selling at auction for $20k, that's usually the most you're gonna get for it unless they already have a buyer for the car, or it's just something extraordinary. They have to be able to get out of it at what they put into it.

01-19-2011, 07:20 PM	#1
Mellish50 Drives: 2011 SW M6 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 252	Went to GM today Hey everyone Just wanted to say what happened today and express my unhappiness. I went to GM to look at upgrading my 2LT to a 2SS and I asked for what I could get trade in value wise. To try and paint the shitty news i got a bit better, My LT was fully equipped with GFX, sunroof, RS Package and only had 5000km on it. In 6 months the value of my car went from 44,000 to 25,000 even though its in beautiful condition. Maybe I'm being a bit naive about this but it felt like an honest to god kick in the nuts. Just thought I'd share this experience with you guys. Still love GM, just a bad day with next to no hope in upgrading... lol __________________ A driver don't pick the cars. Mmm-mm. Cars pick the driver. It's a mystical bond between man and machine.

01-19-2011, 07:29 PM	#3
2010 SS RS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM Black Polished Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,108	I totally agree that your dealer was low balling the price to you..Go elsewhere and good luck. It does look like the 2lt does not hold its value as well as the SS though. __________________ 418 Stroker, 621RWHP 648 lbs TORQUE Built by Laramie GM Auto Center Tuned by Nick at Mac Autosport. EForce SC, 2 3/4pulley,LPE dual fuel pump, JRE Twin fuel rail upgrade, posi clutch kit, RX oilcatch can and breather, Callies Compstar crankshaft and rods, Racing bearings, CP -13.8 race pistons, steel rings, Comp Cams X6 blower cam, Springs, HD timing chain and tensioner, Doug Thorley Tri Y LT headers, 89.7lb injectors, RPM rollbar, DSS1400 shafts, Simpson 5 pt harness, BMR Toe rods and trailing arms, led lights, RPM input and output shafts

01-19-2011, 07:56 PM	#4
mikel441 Drives: 2014 Sonic, 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gig Harbor, WA Posts: 2,453 View My Garage	Ditto......Move on. __________________

01-19-2011, 08:04 PM	#5
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	find another dealer __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

01-20-2011, 11:23 AM	#11
JCL-2SS Drives: 2010 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lindenhurst, NY Posts: 216	conversion as of 1/20/11 44,000.00 CAD = 44,048.39 USD 1 CAD = 1.00110 USD 1 USD = 0.998901 CAD __________________ 2010 2SS IBM L99 6A, Janetty Tune, Dynatech headers and cats, Flowmaster exaust, SLP underdive pulley, CAI inc. CAI, MSD wires, LED's -taillights, side markers, knight rider, interior, Chevy emblem, rear plate

01-19-2011, 07:22 PM	#2
BackinBlackSS/RS Go Blue!!!!! Drives: 2012 Cruze LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 23,290	Your dealer was just trying to screw you. Use www.nada.com to find out what your car is worth.

01-20-2011, 09:06 AM	#7
pony Drives: 2011 2SS Convert; Color RJT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nebraska Posts: 722	If you paid $44k for a 2LT with those options, you got screwed from the start!

01-20-2011, 09:08 AM	#8
2010 2-Tone Drives: 2010 RY 2SS with Custom Stripes Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jennings, La. Posts: 2,220 View My Garage	If you paid 44,000 for a 2LT with those options, you paid too much. He is alittle low on the offer though.

01-20-2011, 10:56 AM	#9
skraemer Drives: 96 Silverado, 2011 2LT M6 RS IBM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 131	He lives in Canada. I'm sure that is why he paid that much. But his situation in American dollars is like if I paid $30k for a 2LT and 5000 miles later only being offered $17k for it.

01-20-2011, 12:12 PM	#12
Orange Krate Not just any car! Drives: Orange Krate DOB - 11/22/2010 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 1,848	Camaros will litter the landscape in a year or so for $15-20K when gas hits 5 bucks a gallon. Better hang on to it and just drive it! __________________ Simi Valley, CA email: orangekrate2011@yahoo.com

01-20-2011, 12:12 PM	#13
GreenWithEnvy Drives: 2011 Synergy Green Camaro Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St. Albans, WV Posts: 254	Yea the dealers try to use "Black Book", which is whole sale prices on the car... it basically is what they could get out of it if they took it to an auction. It's the easiest way for them to screw you and make a huge profit on the car... now that you know what one dealer is going to give you go to kbb.com or nada.com and come up with a fair price in between those two prices.

01-20-2011, 12:34 PM	#14
The Viz Drives: Everything Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,110	Most dealers don't even go by Black Book or NADA anymore. The more realistic standard to them is the Manheim Auctions. If a car is selling at auction for $20k, that's usually the most you're gonna get for it unless they already have a buyer for the car, or it's just something extraordinary. They have to be able to get out of it at what they put into it. __________________ "God help the child who grows out of everything"

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
CAMARO PRICE INCREASE, effective TODAY 1/4/2010	CamaroScotty	Camaro Price \| Ordering \| Tracking \| Dealers Discussions	47	01-07-2010 09:58 PM
Sat in Camaro today, some disappointment	bobby35ny	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	460	08-01-2009 12:52 PM
Mine was ordered today!	SSmoke	Camaro Price \| Ordering \| Tracking \| Dealers Discussions	1	04-09-2009 01:52 PM
Some are saying that customer order production started TODAY	GLBL WMR	Camaro Price \| Ordering \| Tracking \| Dealers Discussions	70	03-17-2009 12:07 AM
Didn't hear from dealer today, did anyone?	Rob53	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	4	02-20-2009 07:16 AM