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jimmyh · 05-20-2011, 03:42 PM

I think most GM cars from the last few years might have a reverse wire up there. There has been talk of congress requiring backup cameras on ALL new cars, and GM may have prudently designed all new platforms with the reverse wire already in place. One less thing they will have to revise if/when it becomes mandatory. That's just my conjecture though.

I saw a video somewhere of someone installing one of these in a base Camaro. I know it was not a 2LT/2SS because they needed to splice into some wire under the dash to get power, or something for autodim in the mirror to work. And they stated if you have a 2LT/2SS you would not have to do this.

Then again, the 2012 is offering backup camera (at least the ZL1 has it) maybe that is why the reverse wire is already there.

jtzako · 05-20-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Thanks was out, If you have a 2ss or 2lt even if its a Even earlier VIN car like 9103359 it will work.

Mine is a 1SS, so I assume I will need to change the wiring?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-20-2011, 05:11 PM

No if you have a 1SS then t-tap the revers lights and connect them to the wire coming out of the mirror harness, There is a diode in the mirror harness so you dont power the BCM.

bad_bear · 05-20-2011, 07:43 PM

I have a 1LT Synergy Camaro and when I installed Ofer's harness there was no voltage on the green wire coming from the mirror. So I installed the camera (SonyXA-R800C Kit and connected the power feed from the light Green wire coming out of the plug under the tail-light cover on the left (drivers side) of the trunk. I also extended a wire along with the video cable from there to the green wire on Ofer's harness. This put 12V on the mirror and the camera every time the backup lights come on. Everything works fine.

WCoolBreeze · 05-20-2011, 08:45 PM

I have a 2LT/RS and it is a Pre-Order, VIN # 7757. Ofer and I installed his Back-up Camera and Mirror system in my car the second weekend in May and it works PERFECTLY.

Walt B.

jimmyh · 05-22-2011, 12:31 PM

I installed the new camera today. Couple of things:

Fig 38; mounting it from inside the bumper, I needed to trim down the flanges on this camera. The area between the plate lights is recessed up there. So this needs to fit down in. I took about 1/4" off each side.

Fig39; I removed the plate lights, then cut a hole as shown using a dremel with a cut-off wheel. I don't have very steady hands, obviously.

Fig 40; Using 3M auto trim tape on the flanges, just fed the camera up through the plate opening, and was able to press it down firmly through the light openings. Yes, it's a little off-center. No, I don't care. I might go back and put a bead of silicone around the opening.

Fig 41; I also might go back and shorten this harness, or splice the pigtail directly to the other wiring harness (getting rid of the RCA and power connectors) I just didn't feel like splicing wires today. And there is plenty of space there to stuff the wires into anyway.

Fig 42, 43; This camera is much bigger than the other one. I was afraid it would stick out even more. This is why I mounted it from above. It is actually less noticeable this way.

jimmyh · 05-22-2011, 12:36 PM

Extra special thanks to Ofer for making this happen, and for just being an all around awesome individual!!!!!

Question Ofer; is there anything special involved in splicing the video wire? If I wanted to splice the pigtail connector on that long harness you provided directly to the wiring that was already there (i.e. cut off the power and RCA connectors on both, and splice them together). I have had bad luck in the past splicing audio wires together with that shielding wire that is in there.

One last thing; I have gotten alot of comments from people that want to do this, but won't because they don't want to cut a hole in their bumper. I don't see the big deal. Assume that camera is going to be there as long as the car is. Even if not, you could glue a piece of plastic over the hole, and no one would ever see it. Unless they decide to lay on the ground to admire your Borla or something.

justa25thTA · 05-22-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyh

Extra special thanks to Ofer for making this happen, and for just being an all around awesome individual!!!!!

Question Ofer; is there anything special involved in splicing the video wire? If I wanted to splice the pigtail connector on that long harness you provided directly to the wiring that was already there (i.e. cut off the power and RCA connectors on both, and splice them together). I have had bad luck in the past splicing audio wires together with that shielding wire that is in there.

One last thing; I have gotten alot of comments from people that want to do this, but won't because they don't want to cut a hole in their bumper. I don't see the big deal. Assume that camera is going to be there as long as the car is. Even if not, you could glue a piece of plastic over the hole, and no one would ever see it. Unless they decide to lay on the ground to admire your Borla or something.

This is why I went with the license plate camera. Very stealthy and works great

Batman0837 · 05-22-2011, 01:16 PM

Nice job, reading earlier posts in this thread, I was thinking "this is what I would do" it's a shame there isn't a camera that isn't dome shaped (think inverted R2D2) so you could use a step drill bit or hole saw to make a perfectly round hole and then drop the camera in from the top/backside like you did and use the same 3m tape for mounting...does a camera like this exist that is compatible?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-22-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyh

Extra special thanks to Ofer for making this happen, and for just being an all around awesome individual!!!!!

Thanks, put is the right thing to do,

Question Ofer; is there anything special involved in splicing the video wire? If I wanted to splice the pigtail connector on that long harness you provided directly to the wiring that was already there (i.e. cut off the power and RCA connectors on both, and splice them together). I have had bad luck in the past splicing audio wires together with that shielding wire that is in there.

no, not at all, Do one at a time to not mix up the wires.

One last thing; I have gotten alot of comments from people that want to do this, but won't because they don't want to cut a hole in their bumper. I don't see the big deal. Assume that camera is going to be there as long as the car is. Even if not, you could glue a piece of plastic over the hole, and no one would ever see it. Unless they decide to lay on the ground to admire your Borla or something.

So Get an after market camera that dos not need any hole's done to the car, But so you know all converts have a hole now in the rear for the camera, with a cover over the hole.

And thanks ones more for the help.

jtzako · 05-22-2011, 02:24 PM

I'm working on this today and seem to have run into a problem.

I have tapped power from my reverse lights, and hooked it up to the 'pink' wire in Ofers wiring harness. I can detect power with my meter when I put the car in reverse, but the mirror lcd never turns on. The mirror itself has a few green lights on it, just the LCD isnt powering.

I believe the power is not making it up the red wire in the wiring harness that runs to the front.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-22-2011, 02:34 PM

Are you the one that called me?

jtzako · 05-22-2011, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Are you the one that called me?

Yes, I called you

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-22-2011, 02:41 PM

If you remove the connecter on the the mirror and see if you have power to pin 9 of the 16 pins, its the pin at the bottom left if your looking at it and its has the tab's up.

05-20-2011, 08:45 PM	#117
WCoolBreeze 2SS Drives: 2016 2SS, Red Garnet Tint Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Imperial, CA Posts: 1,343	I have a 2LT/RS and it is a Pre-Order, VIN # 7757. Ofer and I installed his Back-up Camera and Mirror system in my car the second weekend in May and it works PERFECTLY. Walt B. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T (Yes it has a Hemi) 1987 Camaro RS (California Special) - For Sale Gen6, 2016 Camaro 2SS, Red Garnet Tint (with Silver Rally Stripes) Ordered: 2-12-2016 TPW: 3-7-2016 Built: 3-7-2016 VIN 1G1FH78G0157626 Delivered: 4-26-2016

05-22-2011, 12:31 PM	#118
jimmyh Drives: 2011 1LT => 2010 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Posts: 189	I installed the new camera today. Couple of things: Fig 38; mounting it from inside the bumper, I needed to trim down the flanges on this camera. The area between the plate lights is recessed up there. So this needs to fit down in. I took about 1/4" off each side. Fig39; I removed the plate lights, then cut a hole as shown using a dremel with a cut-off wheel. I don't have very steady hands, obviously. Fig 40; Using 3M auto trim tape on the flanges, just fed the camera up through the plate opening, and was able to press it down firmly through the light openings. Yes, it's a little off-center. No, I don't care. I might go back and put a bead of silicone around the opening. Fig 41; I also might go back and shorten this harness, or splice the pigtail directly to the other wiring harness (getting rid of the RCA and power connectors) I just didn't feel like splicing wires today. And there is plenty of space there to stuff the wires into anyway. Fig 42, 43; This camera is much bigger than the other one. I was afraid it would stick out even more. This is why I mounted it from above. It is actually less noticeable this way. Attached Images

05-22-2011, 01:16 PM	#121
Batman0837 Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS # 71394 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 365	Nice job, reading earlier posts in this thread, I was thinking "this is what I would do" it's a shame there isn't a camera that isn't dome shaped (think inverted R2D2) so you could use a step drill bit or hole saw to make a perfectly round hole and then drop the camera in from the top/backside like you did and use the same 3m tape for mounting...does a camera like this exist that is compatible? __________________ Check out my Batcave Home Theater here!

05-22-2011, 02:24 PM	#123
jtzako Drives: 2010 IBM Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Tx Posts: 1,157	I'm working on this today and seem to have run into a problem. I have tapped power from my reverse lights, and hooked it up to the 'pink' wire in Ofers wiring harness. I can detect power with my meter when I put the car in reverse, but the mirror lcd never turns on. The mirror itself has a few green lights on it, just the LCD isnt powering. I believe the power is not making it up the red wire in the wiring harness that runs to the front. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Imperial Blue \| CAI Inc, CAI \| Solo Hi Flow Cats \| X-Pipe \| Backup Camera \| PDIM

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05-20-2011, 03:42 PM	#113
jimmyh Drives: 2011 1LT => 2010 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Posts: 189	I think most GM cars from the last few years might have a reverse wire up there. There has been talk of congress requiring backup cameras on ALL new cars, and GM may have prudently designed all new platforms with the reverse wire already in place. One less thing they will have to revise if/when it becomes mandatory. That's just my conjecture though. I saw a video somewhere of someone installing one of these in a base Camaro. I know it was not a 2LT/2SS because they needed to splice into some wire under the dash to get power, or something for autodim in the mirror to work. And they stated if you have a 2LT/2SS you would not have to do this. Then again, the 2012 is offering backup camera (at least the ZL1 has it) maybe that is why the reverse wire is already there.

05-20-2011, 05:11 PM	#115
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	No if you have a 1SS then t-tap the revers lights and connect them to the wire coming out of the mirror harness, There is a diode in the mirror harness so you dont power the BCM.

05-20-2011, 07:43 PM	#116
bad_bear Drives: Camero Synergy LT1 Coupe Join Date: May 2010 Location: S. W. Florida Posts: 54	I have a 1LT Synergy Camaro and when I installed Ofer's harness there was no voltage on the green wire coming from the mirror. So I installed the camera (SonyXA-R800C Kit and connected the power feed from the light Green wire coming out of the plug under the tail-light cover on the left (drivers side) of the trunk. I also extended a wire along with the video cable from there to the green wire on Ofer's harness. This put 12V on the mirror and the camera every time the backup lights come on. Everything works fine.

05-22-2011, 12:36 PM	#119
jimmyh Drives: 2011 1LT => 2010 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Posts: 189	Extra special thanks to Ofer for making this happen, and for just being an all around awesome individual!!!!! Question Ofer; is there anything special involved in splicing the video wire? If I wanted to splice the pigtail connector on that long harness you provided directly to the wiring that was already there (i.e. cut off the power and RCA connectors on both, and splice them together). I have had bad luck in the past splicing audio wires together with that shielding wire that is in there. One last thing; I have gotten alot of comments from people that want to do this, but won't because they don't want to cut a hole in their bumper. I don't see the big deal. Assume that camera is going to be there as long as the car is. Even if not, you could glue a piece of plastic over the hole, and no one would ever see it. Unless they decide to lay on the ground to admire your Borla or something.

05-22-2011, 02:34 PM	#124
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Are you the one that called me?

05-22-2011, 02:41 PM	#126
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	If you remove the connecter on the the mirror and see if you have power to pin 9 of the 16 pins, its the pin at the bottom left if your looking at it and its has the tab's up.