Z/28 hate already...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by EdRedCamaro2

"...a display of raw horsepower and not much else." Yeah, braking doesn't count, suspension doesn't matter, and aerodynamically, all cars are the same.

It'd be one thing if the Nurburgring were actually a power track. But anyone remotely familiar with the 'ring understands that it is a handling track above all else. There aren't that many long straights (though there is 1 gigantic one) nor are there many high-speed sweeping turns. So its kinda hard to classify it as a 'power track'

[blufin]

Originally Posted by christianmotox

LOL, Honda guys are funny..

But this guy right here is on a mission... Not sure what his problem is but he must have had a pretty sad childhood or something. He is obsessed with the Z/28.
I even think he is or was a camaro5 forum member.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=705

Yeah, THE PILL is completely obsessed with discrediting the Z/28 and every other Camaro. It's too bad words can't fix the fact that GM has spanked Ford, again.

LOL at THE PILL.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by christianmotox

LOL, Honda guys are funny..

But this guy right here is on a mission... Not sure what his problem is but he must have had a pretty sad childhood or something. He is obsessed with the Z/28.
I even think he is or was a camaro5 forum member.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=705

ThePill absolutely HATES all things Camaro. He works long and hard to prove just how sh!tty our cars are and how stupid we all are for owning one.

Its like we took his first born or something.

[Knightsport]

Originally Posted by Deftones

I found this amusing.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3175025

Small world, we have also found your thread amusing.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I guess their brains are fried from breathing too much NOS.....If Ignorance is Bliss then those guys are the most Blissfull on the planet!

You mean Nitrous Oxide? NOS is a brand, Nitrous Oxide is a oxidizing gas. Not sure anyone uses it over there, we prefer boost.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Sounds like some think it was just the Horsepower and others think it was all in the tires. Geesh. I guess it would have been more acceptable to them with Fart can mufflers with 6" tips and a wing off a 747 hanging off the back.

No, it would have been more impressive with tires Chevy actually plans to sell with the car. JUST barely legal r Comps that you can't get as a dealer option? Meh, not as impressive.

Not nearly as impressive as spending more money on a Camaro than a brand new Stingray Corvette just to go slower anyway.


Most of us in the GDD section do not drive Hondas and we make fun of ricers. The only difference between our little forum and yours is we make fun of all ricers. By "ricer" I mean anyone who holds form over function. We too consider fart cans of obscene size and large spoilers on street cars ridiculous. Just as we also consider V6 Camaro's with bling-tastic wheels, said wheels covered in the cherapest rubber money can buy and European ricer "halo" lights to be rice. Because they do nothing for performance and infact the wrong wheels can even adversely affect performance. Especially when wrapped in Wal-mart grade rubber.

So please come over and visit. Feel free to join the debate. Some of us see it as impressive even with the R comps, especially considering the latter part of that run was in semi-wet coniditions. It's not like the Camaro has the lightweight advantage of the Corvette, the all wheel drive and technobabble wizardry of the GTR or the brute force of a Viper.

Cheers,

Knightsport, from the internet

[Sikoriko]

Don't hate honda, I got 3K on my selfpropelled honda mower.

[IOMZL1]

What's the tire discrepancy? Maybe I missed something?

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Knightsport

Small world, we have also found your thread amusing.



You mean Nitrous Oxide? NOS is a brand, Nitrous Oxide is a oxidizing gas. Not sure anyone uses it over there, we prefer boost.



No, it would have been more impressive with tires Chevy actually plans to sell with the car. JUST barely legal r Comps that you can't get as a dealer option? Meh, not as impressive.

Not nearly as impressive as spending more money on a Camaro than a brand new Stingray Corvette just to go slower anyway.


Most of us in the GDD section do not drive Hondas and we make fun of ricers. The only difference between our little forum and yours is we make fun of all ricers. By "ricer" I mean anyone who holds form over function. We too consider fart cans of obscene size and large spoilers on street cars ridiculous. Just as we also consider V6 Camaro's with bling-tastic wheels, said wheels covered in the cherapest rubber money can buy and European ricer "halo" lights to be rice. Because they do nothing for performance and infact the wrong wheels can even adversely affect performance. Especially when wrapped in Wal-mart grade rubber.

So please come over and visit. Feel free to join the debate. Some of us see it as impressive even with the R comps, especially considering the latter part of that run was in semi-wet coniditions. It's not like the Camaro has the lightweight advantage of the Corvette, the all wheel drive and technobabble wizardry of the GTR or the brute force of a Viper.

Cheers,

Knightsport, from the internet

Oh we make fun of all ricers around here too, this is just one example so don't think of us only ragging on Hondas.
Most of the Ricers around that I know call it NOS no matter what brand used, it's just easier for them to say than Nitrous Oxide.
Weren't the tires that come on the Z/28 are the ones they used? I cannot find anything that says otherwise, As from the Chevy website
"CHASSIS
The tires on Camaro Z/28 are robust and massive Pirelli® PZERO™ Trofeo R† 305/30ZR19 summer-only tires† — ideal for lateral motions, like corner entry and exit."
So how did you come up with the information the tires used were not the ones that will Come on the Z/28?

By the way, welcome to the forum.

[Knightsport]

Originally Posted by IOMZL1

What's the tire discrepancy? Maybe I missed something?

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Oh we make fun of all ricers around here too, this is just one example so don't think of us only ragging on Hondas.
Most of the Ricers around that I know call it NOS no matter what brand used, it's just easier for them to say than Nitrous Oxide.
Weren't the tires that come on the Z/28 are the ones they used? I cannot find anything that says otherwise, As from the Chevy website
"CHASSIS
The tires on Camaro Z/28 are robust and massive Pirelli® PZERO™ Trofeo R† 305/30ZR19 summer-only tires† — ideal for lateral motions, like corner entry and exit."
So how did you come up with the information the tires used were not the ones that will Come on the Z/28?

By the way, welcome to the forum.

Thanks all and I was mistaken, Chevy is selling the R Comps with the Z/28 package so my hat is off to them for that.

It was brought up because the article in question compares a 911 which ran the Ring on regular old street tires to the Z/28 on R Comps.

Now that I know they come with the car all I can say is don't bring a knife to a gun fight. :shrug:

BUT it isn't unusual for Chevy to throw on some really exotic rubber to take top time away from other manufacturers. They did so with the ZR1, hence my ASSumption.

[2cnd chance]

The Z/28, Z06 & ZR1 tires are all stock. They are all still street tires. BTW, the Trofeos are neither cold nor wet friendly...making it even more amazing for a Camaro.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Knightsport

BUT it isn't unusual for Chevy to throw on some really exotic rubber to take top time away from other manufacturers. They did so with the ZR1, hence my ASSumption.

Are you referring to the Pilot Sport Cup tires? Because those were optional on both the ZR1 and the Z06, part of the performance packages.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Knightsport

BUT it isn't unusual for Chevy to throw on some really exotic rubber to take top time away from other manufacturers. They did so with the ZR1, hence my ASSumption.

Yeah, and I guess 632 Horsepower didn't have anything to do with it.

[OldScoolCamaro]

...whats there to hate? Celebrate!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Yeah, and I guess 632 Horsepower didn't have anything to do with it.

Well if everyone is boosting at 7-9 psi why not just double it...Ford?

[briancb1]

I was amazed at the hate on the honda forum.

Not verbatim, but to sum it up, I basically read...

"60K for a 7:37 Camaro? I'd much rather have a 90-140K AWD Turbo car, thats so much reasonable/awesome! Did you see the Motor Trend 0-60 stats for the GT-R? I have such an boner!

OMG it has DOT approved R compound tires form the factory? WTF!!! Thats sooo gay! Its okay if you put them on the car on your own, but as a factory option this makes me think GM was cheating at the ring! GM is always cheating at the ring! Put a regular 305 tire on the Z/28 and it should add 15 seconds and be super slow! I won't mention the fact that GT3's and RS's had similar tires from the factory but P-cars are awesome....

Who cares that its a powerful and fast car thats fun to drive and can hold 4 passangers + trunk space; Camaro's have bad interiors and are for stupid Rednecks! 60K for a 7:30's car is a rip off!!! GTR's and 911 Turbo S's are so awesome!!....."