Canadian Pricing for the Camaro5

[Mike88]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The vast majorityof Canadians live within a 2 hour drive of the border. A far bit longer than going to the local dealer, but if thats what I have to do to get waranty issues fixed on a US bought car, I'll do it.

Well, obviously that is a potential solution. Where I live just south of Montreal is about an hour from the closest Chevy dealer on the other side of the border. Can you imagine how steep the bill would be to have the broken down vehicle towed across the border to the American dealer? Not only that but think about the ensuing headache when you have to be at work the following day back in Canada and the dealer is telling you the car won't be ready. I know most of us have the know-how to fix our own vehicles to avoid towing costs and the like, but after all the years of owning used cars without warranties, just the thought of having a bran new vehicle under warranty that I don't have to touch outside of brake jobs and oil changes for 3-5 years is amazing!

I just think this sort of thing would be a huge hassle and I think we're better off lobbying our own gov't to do something about these greedy manufacturers (even though that's not likely with this Tory gov't).

Oh yeah, and I have heard of American dealers near the border refusing to sell to Canadian customers for fear of reprecussions from GM, so don't just assume that your American dealer is going to sell to you.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Mike88

Oh yeah, and I have heard of American dealers near the border refusing to sell to Canadian customers for fear of reprecussions from GM, so don't just assume that your American dealer is going to sell to you.

Yes i know about this issue.... as far as the dealer around here goes it doesn't seem to be a problem... my cuz just picked up an 07 Tahoe brand new through a broker.... it was no problemo! So i hope i can do the same.... or I more hope so that our prices will be even enough so that its at least somewhat fair for us and I will just buy from a local dealer.

I guess time will tell what happens and what route everyone takes.

[Mike88]

if anyone does go that route, please report back here ASAP to let the others know how it went and which brokers and dealers to seek out. We're also going to need info on what sorts of modifications, if any, will be needed...for example, daytime driving lights and km/h speedo.

[CaptianSam]

pretty angry... my dad said if i want the g5 camaro... id have to lease it through one of his friends...which probably translates to 45-50000 canadian i was hoping to get a states bargian at around 35 grand...

hahaha do you want to know what is sad...ok for arguments sake the can dollar and the American dollar are about equal , so lets assume they are. in the usa you can assume to get a camaro (2009) for the price of around 35000
or for example maybe even a ford mustang for 30000 (everybody hates mustangs...but this is hypothetically speaking) so for my canadian dollar that is equal to the us dollar do you know what 30000 gets me...well for 31,809.50 i can get a 2007 HONDA CIVIC si...for 27.741.50 i can get a 2008 TOYOTA COROLLA XRS ...or for 400 dollars more i can bump up to a base 08 CAMRY for 28,141.50 the top CAMRY cost around 35000 canadian... compare that to a top level 09 camaro for 35000

[Mike88]

I'm not sure where you're going with that Captain Sam. You can't compare the Civic SI to the top dawg Camaro. Also, all we can assume is that the Canadian pricing will be close to the Mustang GT, but we have no idea if GM Canada will be pricing the Camaro similar to what the Americans will pay.

[2K05GT]

Originally Posted by CaptianSam

hahaha do you want to know what is sad...ok for arguments sake the can dollar and the American dollar are about equal , so lets assume they are. in the usa you can assume to get a camaro (2009) for the price of around 35000
or for example maybe even a ford mustang for 30000 (everybody hates mustangs...but this is hypothetically speaking) so for my canadian dollar that is equal to the us dollar do you know what 30000 gets me...well for 31,809.50 i can get a 2007 HONDA CIVIC si...for 27.741.50 i can get a 2008 TOYOTA COROLLA XRS ...or for 400 dollars more i can bump up to a base 08 CAMRY for 28,141.50 the top CAMRY cost around 35000 canadian... compare that to a top level 09 camaro for 35000

1) who hates Mustangs? I love My Mustang... (I will love my Camaro too)
2) Why would a Car Built in Canada Cost more ? the Canadian $ is the rated better that the US $, you should be able to get a killer deal. But I have not been to the Great white North so I might be speaking out my ass,
3) Why even class the Honda in the plain as a Camaro or Mustang, different cars all together...

[Mike88]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

2) Why would a Car Built in Canada Cost more ? the Canadian $ is the rated better that the US $, you should be able to get a killer deal. But I have not been to the Great white North so I might be speaking out my ass,
...

that's not how it works...read the last two pages of this thread. Canadians are paying thousands, sometimes tens of the thousands more for the same vehicles bought in the US.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

1) who hates Mustangs? I love My Mustang... (I will love my Camaro too)
2) Why would a Car Built in Canada Cost more ? the Canadian $ is the rated better that the US $, you should be able to get a killer deal. But I have not been to the Great white North so I might be speaking out my ass,
3) Why even class the Honda in the plain as a Camaro or Mustang, different cars all together...

We have no real idea as to why it costs more. thats the problem. as far as we can tell, its because all the automakers choose to gouge us. We pay more for everything. Silverados, Civics, Camrys, Grand Prix's, Chargers, Freestars and many other vehicles are all made in Ontario. And they all have the same markup rate as cars that are imported. there is no justifiable reason for any of this now

[TAG UR IT]

^I don't hate mustangs.

[2K05GT]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

We have no real idea as to why it costs more. thats the problem. as far as we can tell, its because all the automakers choose to gouge us. We pay more for everything. Silverados, Civics, Camrys, Grand Prix's, Chargers, Freestars and many other vehicles are all made in Ontario. And they all have the same markup rate as cars that are imported. there is no justifiable reason for any of this now

Thats Not Fair.. Could Taxes be Higher on New Cars? This it not fair because Canada does nor make a "National Car" brand Like Germany (Mercedes) GB (Peice of Crap somthing) ect... Sometimes countries do this to protect the home grown company.

Does anyone know if it is like this in the Land Down Under?

That Sucks, I am sorry to hear that......

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

^I don't hate mustangs.

Thanks Tag....
I don't either

[Mike88]

Okay, I'll sum up this entire thread for everyone who doesn't feel like reading everything so far...recently, the Canadian dollar reached parity with the American dollar, however our dealerships are still charging us far more than American dealerships. As mentioned above, we can buy a vehicle in the US and import it to Canada, but there are numerous fees, duties, and taxes that usually amount to several thousand dollars. So its only worth it to import the vehicle if all of these costs will be less than the differential between the US and Canadian prices (and it usually is on anything worth more than $25,000). We also have other considerations to take into account, such as modifactions to the vehicle if it is not equipped with daytime running lights or a km/h speedometer. The biggest hassle will likely be assuring that the warranties will be maintained by Canadian dealerships when there is something wrong with the vehicle. Many Canadian dealerships have refused to honour warranties of vehicles bought in the US, meaning that we will have to drive/tow our vehicles across the border for reparations each time there is a problem. Basically, we're getting screwed, there's not much we can do about it because there isn't a single manufacturer who is willing to lower the prices of their vehicles and no law says they have to!

PS...its not really about taxes...taxes are slightly higher here, but this would only account for less than a thousand dollar difference on most vehicles. It has everything to do with price gouging!

[CaptianSam]

the only thing im trying to say...(i love my nissan and my charger and mustangs....) is for the 30000 canadian dollars you ONLY get a civic...but for the EXACT SAME 30000 american you get a v8 camaro...

BTW...2K05GT your stang looks pimp... lol 12.65 is good i pulled a 12.350 indoor drag last week with my 350z on drag rad.s... dads viper pulled a 11.311 stock on a prep'd track
my z SMOKES my charger r/t

[nickkillerbee]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

Does anyone know if it is like this in the Land Down Under?

Yes its kinda the same here but we do have a "home grown company" and in australia its mostly the gst (goods and services tax for those who dont know) that affects the price (its 22% on vehicles sold by a dealer) but thats because holden tends to agree with the overpriceing so it doesnt make much difference when ur buying a car. However we do not have to many american cars avalible in aus ie ford australia makes different models and mustangs are not avalible here from ford. Therefore comparisons are hard to find when ur buying pony cars from dealers in aus.

1 of the biggest advantages of importing a car to aus from america (or any other car company in the world) is that the gst is reduced to 10% because it does cost quite a lot to transport a car down under.

[Maddog78]

Originally Posted by Mike88

Okay, I'll sum up this entire thread for everyone who doesn't feel like reading everything so far...recently, the Canadian dollar reached parity with the American dollar, however our dealerships are still charging us far more than American dealerships. As mentioned above, we can buy a vehicle in the US and import it to Canada, but there are numerous fees, duties, and taxes that usually amount to several thousand dollars. So its only worth it to import the vehicle if all of these costs will be less than the differential between the US and Canadian prices (and it usually is on anything worth more than $25,000). We also have other considerations to take into account, such as modifactions to the vehicle if it is not equipped with daytime running lights or a km/h speedometer. The biggest hassle will likely be assuring that the warranties will be maintained by Canadian dealerships when there is something wrong with the vehicle. Many Canadian dealerships have refused to honour warranties of vehicles bought in the US, meaning that we will have to drive/tow our vehicles across the border for reparations each time there is a problem. Basically, we're getting screwed, there's not much we can do about it because there isn't a single manufacturer who is willing to lower the prices of their vehicles and no law says they have to!

PS...its not really about taxes...taxes are slightly higher here, but this would only account for less than a thousand dollar difference on most vehicles. It has everything to do with price gouging!

Yeah, agreed. When the $US was worth $C1.50 a $US50K car = $C75K, no problem, but our dollar has appreciated relatively rapidly to parity and the manufacturers arer sloooowwwwllly adjusting prices, meanwhile they seem to be doing what they can to slow down importswwith warranty and compliance issues. Not good for now.
I imported a used Porsche 911 from Dallas and saved about $20K.
No warranty issues for Porsche, good in both.

I hope that by the time the 5thGen comes out prices will be closer in Can./US and I will be able to buy locally.