What type of Royal Purple?

[rawj7]

Hello Fairly new here joined about tree days ago. I'v been doing allot of reading and I want to do the Royal purple oil change at my 1500 miles time. Does anyone here know the numbers to the Manual transmission, and rear diff Royal Purple oil so I can do a shearch so I can find out how its going to cost so I can plane on it and get it orderd? allso what the weight on the engine oil and the amonts the eng, trans, and diff I'm needing to buy? Thanks
Rob

[hot_rod]

Ah...as long as you are aware, Royal Purple is not on the GM approval list. Subject has been discussed at lenght on this forum.

Link to a .pdf listing what is approved.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=approved+oils

[Big Brunsy]

We use royal purple in machinery at work, and I will say it's a great oil. But realistically you can get just as good of a motor oil in Mobil 1 for alot less. You can get a 5qt jug at wal-mart for like $23 as compared to $8/qt for royal purple. It's ur money/warranty, do with it as you wish

[rawj7]

THANKS SO MUCH. I had NO IDEA. I just talked to my service manager on Thursday and he didnt say anything about RP voiding the warreny. I'v allways used Mobil1 and only used RP once on my last car and I thought it was great, but no great enough to void my warrenty. I read Pensoil Ultra is better than Mobil1? what do you all recomend is the BEST "Approved Syn oil for the engine, manual, and diff"? All what number to google for and how much to buy of each? thanks
Rob

[rawj7]

You See. This is why this place Rocks. I allmost voided my warent this Tuesday. Thanks Fellas

[Eric Baker]

You won't void your warranty by using RP. Most people will use the RP trans and diff fluid, and an easily/cheaply available approved motor oil, such as Mobil 1.

[BigMatt]

It won't void your warranty.
RP 5W30 8 qts
Synchromax 4qts
Severe Gear 75W90 1qt

[pleigh]

I've run RP 5w30 full syn since I changed it at 1000 miles. 4k miles later I'm getting ready to do it again. It won't void your warranty

I run RP in all my vehicles, 2006 Ford Expedition, 2002 BMW 325i, and my last vehicle 2003 Infiniti G35.

It's your car, your call.

[v6sonoma]

I just put RP in. Used 5W-30. Keep in mind Royal Purple recommends waiting for new engines to have at least 2000 miles on them before switching.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by Eric Baker

You won't void your warranty by using RP. Most people will use the RP trans and diff fluid, and an easily/cheaply available approved motor oil, such as Mobil 1.

use RP at your own risk. Test results are usually not favorable.

[Sir Nuke]

what you need, is the manual so you have the information at your finger tips....as far as the amounts. Here is a link so you can download an owners manual....http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=manual

[jbdj89]

Here is my reply from royal purple


Good Afternoon Mr. Bird,

The oil specified for your Camaro is a 5W-30 that has the API Starburst symbol on it. Also, the oil must meet the GM 4718M performance spec. All Royal Purple motor oils meet or exceed the performance requirements of GM4718M, and GM6094M. The GM 4718M spec is largely an oxidation testing sequence GM began using back in the mid to late 1990’s with the introduction of the C5 Corvette. The new design created some inherent issues with oil cooling. GM needed an oil which could handle higher temperatures for extended periods without a significant increase in the oxidation rate. In 360F Thin Film Oxidation Uptake (TFOUT ASTM D4742) testing, Royal Purple SAE engine oils exceed 1200 minutes before failure. Most synthetics, including GM4718M licensed Mobil 1, will typically reach failure in less than 500 minutes.

The GM 6094M specification is a low temperature cold cranking viscosity. The pumping viscosities specified by GM6094M are shown below. The Royal Purple pumping viscosities are shown for comparison. I have also attached the Royal Purple motor oil data sheet:

GM6094M:

For 0W-XX oils - 30,000 cP@ -40°C
For 5W-XX oils - 40,000 cP@ -35°C
For 10W-XX oils - 50,000 cP@ -30°C

Royal Purple:

For 0W-40 oils - 20,000 cP@ -40°C
For 5W-20 oils - 22,200 cP@ -35°C
For 5W-30 oils - 34,800 cP@ -35°C
For 5W-40 oils – 21,500 cP@ -35°C
For 10W-30 oils - 18,000 cP@ -30°C


Higher numbers indicate a thicker, or more viscous fluid. As can easily be seen, Royal Purple motor oils have much better cold flow (lower pumping viscosities) than required.

Even though Royal Purple motor oils meet or exceed the performance requirements of GM 4718M and GM6094M, we cannot list certification because the GM specs also require an API SM rating. We also can not show the API Starburst logo because we do not carry the API SM rating. We have held most of our motor oils back from API SM (most RP SAE motor oils are API SL) because of the lower amount of anti-wear additive allowed in API SM/ILSAC GF-4 oils. The reason for the restriction on anti-wear additive is that certain components of anti-wear additive were shown to cause premature degradation of catalytic converters. OEMs are now mandated by the EPA to warranty the emission system separately from the power train. Rudimentary experimentation showed certain anti-wear additives do in fact degrade catalytic converters; however, the anti-wear additive was applied directly to the core of the cats during the tests. If enough oil is consumed in the combustion chamber (i.e. through poor piston ring seal and/or leaking valve seals), there can be degradation in catalytic converter life. This is not an issue with Royal Purple motor oils used in a mechanically sound engine. The OEMs are willing to trade the longevity of the engine for a possibility of extending the life of the catalytic converters.

We do not agree with reducing anti-wear protection for the engine. For our customers who have vehicles under an OEM warranty that require API-SM rated oils, and have chosen to use Royal Purple API-SL oil, we offer a corporate warranty in the case that engine damage or failure is directly attributable to Royal Purple Oil. I have attached a copy of the warranty for your review.

In summary, Royal Purple motor oils are not currently warranty compliant for your Camaro. If strict warranty compliance is your primary concern, we may not be the best choice. However, if performance and protection are your primary concern, Royal Purple SAE 5W-30 (part #01530, quart bottle) would be an excellent choice.


Thanks for choosing Royal Purple and have a great day!


Best Regards,

Christopher Barker
Tech Services
Royal Purple, Inc.
1 Royal Purple Ln.
Porter, TX 77365
281-354-8600

[Homestar1217]

"we cannot list certification because the GM specs also require an API SM rating. We also can not show the API Starburst logo because we do not carry the API SM rating" "For our customers who have vehicles under an OEM warranty that require API-SM rated oils, and have chosen to use Royal Purple API-SL oil, we offer a corporate warranty in the case that engine damage or failure is directly attributable to Royal Purple Oil"

Royal Purple oil DOES NOT comply with the latest API standards for oil that is to be used in ALL cars manufactured after 2004. I thought it was good stuff too until I started my auto tech classes. Castrol and Valvoline tend to get the best results in testing, and Castrol Edge is about the best there is if you want to make sure your engine stays clean and protected but it's expensive too. Also I'm pretty sure that Royal Purple is a classified ILSAC GF-3 oil, as opposed to the current GF-4 standard. And we're about to move to GF-5!

[Doc]

Originally Posted by Homestar1217

"we cannot list certification because the GM specs also require an API SM rating. We also can not show the API Starburst logo because we do not carry the API SM rating" "For our customers who have vehicles under an OEM warranty that require API-SM rated oils, and have chosen to use Royal Purple API-SL oil, we offer a corporate warranty in the case that engine damage or failure is directly attributable to Royal Purple Oil"

Royal Purple oil DOES NOT comply with the latest API standards for oil that is to be used in ALL cars manufactured after 2004. I thought it was good stuff too until I started my auto tech classes. Castrol and Valvoline tend to get the best results in testing, and Castrol Edge is about the best there is if you want to make sure your engine stays clean and protected but it's expensive too. Also I'm pretty sure that Royal Purple is a classified ILSAC GF-3 oil, as opposed to the current GF-4 standard. And we're about to move to GF-5!

Why did you deliberately omit this part?

"The OEMs are willing to trade the longevity of the engine for a possibility of extending the life of the catalytic converters.

We do not agree with reducing anti-wear protection for the engine. "

Didn't you read what he said the standard actually is and does?