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Dboy23 · 11-17-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carguy

Ring away....Like I said they are still taking 2010 orders for v6's

Listen guys ...I am done. If my source wants to come forward you can hash it out with him. He knows whats going on in that plant..trust me on this one.

I am only passing info that came from a reliable dealer...a Supervisor in Oshawa and my own experience.

I got my two (Both Blown!) one auto one 6 speed, and Loving it. Just feeling bad for my buddy who was just a day or so late. I got two he has none. But I ain't giving mine up.

You believe what you will..I don't know it for fact, but if I was in court right now I think I could convince a jury....

Best of Luck....

You guys can hash this out...and if I am wrong You can Flame away. I can take it. After all I started this thread... CarGuy Out !

Just trying to help a brother out.

Before you run out on us would you be willing to help a little bit with clearing this up, I see from your sig you received your car on 11/10, would you be able to provide your production number (last 5 of your VIN) so we can do the math from there to the 100,000 mark?

armysig · 11-17-2009, 04:42 PM

I placed my order last Monday, The dealer had to do a call in order to complete it. I just got a copy of the build order last night.

I'm just getting the basics.

1SS, Inferno Orange, RS package.

Dealer estimates delivery sometime around late Jan, early Feb.

2010 SSRS · 11-17-2009, 04:44 PM

There are 4 2SSRS Camaros here in RI at Balise Chevrolet, anyone interested call Brian LaNinfa, there is an IBM, IOM, SIM, and a Black one, all Standard shift except the IBM.

JoeP@TeamBeckyD · 11-17-2009, 04:51 PM

I think someone is trying to describe allocation and constraints. I can tell you for certain the the SS's ordered this week will all be 2010 models. The SS production is still less than 100%, but they are still building them. Model year change won't be til summer some time.

Black_2SS · 11-17-2009, 04:53 PM

They are only up in the 50,000 production mark. My vin is 52396 and it was built 10/2009. Don't they share some production w/ the corvette for the ls3? That could also hold things back if they use the same engine plant!

**OOPS*** Sorry missed that last post. Well they were at the 50K mark in Oct, hows that.

Red Rocker · 11-17-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carguy

They will be building 2011's next july or so.

They cuirrently have 19000 cars as sold orders for 2010.. that are not built.

They are building around 480 cars a day six days a week.

Take out holidays....you do the math.

Your math doesn't add up.

Let's just take the six months from January through June (Nov and Dec will be used as holiday days). There are about 150 production days left.

Building 480 cars per day equals 72,000 cars possibly being built. Now there will probably be some parts shortages that will drop that number somewhat, but nowhere near the 19,000 you quote. Maybe 55,000 to 60,000.

Line changes for existing models (no die changes) usually take no time at all, but they will close the plant for two weeks probably around July 1 (Canada Day) to do the change over with 2011 models being produced the 3rd or 4th week of July and on lots in late August.

Dboy23 · 11-17-2009, 05:08 PM

Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 *Production Days*

Wednesday (11/11)
Thursday (11/12)
Friday (11/13)
Saturday (11/14) - 4 days

Monday (11/16) - 10 days

Monday (11/23) - 16 days

Monday (11/30) - 22 days

Monday (12/07) -28 days

Monday (12/14) - 34 days

Monday (12/21) - 40 days

Monday (12/28) - 46 days

Monday (1/4) - 52 days

Monday (1/11) - 58 days

Monday (1/18) - 64 days

Monday (1/25) - 70 days
Tuesday (1/26 - 71 days
Wednesday (1/27) - 72 days

That's with 100,000 cars being built, lets say 10 days off (work days) for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years.

Monday (2/9) - 68 days
Tuesday (2/10) - 69 days
Wednesday (2/11) - 70 days
Thursday (2/12) - 71 days
Friday (2/13) - 72 days

So with that being said lets say a week to ship it (maybe a bit more) at the LATEST the last car should arrive at the dealership (that's estimating that they're only building 100,000 cars) by the end of February sometime, which seems to early to me.

ABM 2SS · 11-17-2009, 05:10 PM

Some people think the 2011 model starts in January.

Mr_Draco · 11-17-2009, 05:15 PM

Hey carguy why are you bailing? because it's been proven that your "source" is mathematically wrong? Lets think about this for a minute. Canada has already taken their thanksgiving break weeks ago and they do not get their Christmas break until the 1st week of January. The 19,000 preordered cars WILL be built before the end of December easily.

The 2011 model change over is not until the 1st week of July and they do not stop taking orders until mid May - first of June. This is how it has ALWAYS been and it WILL NOT be any different for the Camaro and sure as hell won't be different for the SS. So what you pretty much are saying is that "hey guys my moron for a source says that for 5 months after all of the current sold orders are filled you will not be able to buy a SS, which is the hottest car in North America and I'm stupid enough to believe him. But don't worry they will still be making the other trims."

Next time before you go making a doom and gloom post get your facts straight and while your at, the next time your "inside source" tries to tell you something, DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. How does that saying go?

It's best to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a moron then open it and prove them correct.

Ablue1 · 11-17-2009, 05:17 PM

I think what he may be saying is that there are 19000 sold v8's in the system. If you have to build X# of v6 cars compared to V8 cars, all of the v8 cars may be allocated for production 2010 models. Coupled with the production of the engine t support the vette, the system may not be set up to build any more orders for 2010 v8's until 2011 model initiates. All the possible production of 2010 V8 builds may currently be allocated.

OUR72GTO · 11-17-2009, 05:20 PM

Here we go again.

Some Dealer who is an Idiot tells some "friend" what he thinks is happening and could not be more wrong.

OP rushes on here to proclaim the facts with assurances that source is solid.

Poster gets flamed by others who call BS and poster says " only conversation" after a few hundred have read it and tell EVERYONE they know it must be true.!

Conversations about what was to be back in 07 or 08 are worthless. The projections were based on the way the car business was then..... It is a whole new world now.

The 2010 CAMARO will be in available for 2009 and more than 1/2 of 2010.

Find the right dealer and get what you want.

Angrybird 12 · 11-17-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

I'm just guessing at this point. Mike

from the "In the know Guy"

Dboy23 · 11-17-2009, 05:22 PM

Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 *Production Days*

Wednesday (11/11)
Thursday (11/12)
Friday (11/13)
Saturday (11/14) - 4 days

Monday (11/15) - 10 days

Monday (11/22) - 16 days

Monday (11/29) - 22 days

Monday (12/6) -28 days

Monday (12/13) - 34 days

Monday (12/20) - 40 days

Monday (12/27) - 46 days

Monday (1/3) - 52 days

Monday (1/10) - 58 days

Monday (1/17) - 64 days

Monday (1/24) - 70 days

Monday (1/31) - 76 days

Monday (2/7) - 82 days

Monday (2/14) - 88 days

Monday (2/21) - 94 days

Monday (2/28) - 100 days

Monday (3/7) - 106 days

Monday (3/14) - 112 days

Monday (3/21) - 118 days

Monday (3/28) - 124 days

Monday (4/4) - 130 days

Monday (4/11) - 136 days

Monday (4/18) - 142 days

Monday (4/25) - 148 days

Monday (5/2) - 154 days

Monday (5/9) - 160 days

Monday (5/16) - 166 days

Monday (5/23) - 172 days

Monday (5/30) - 178 days

Monday (6/6) - 184 days

Monday (6/13) - 190 days

Monday (6/20) - 196 days

Monday (6/27) - 197 days
Tueday (6/28) - 198 days
Wednesday (6/29) - 199 days
Thursday (6/30) - 200 days - Last 2010 Production Day

200 x 480 is 96,000 more cars add that to 66,000 already built that's 162,000 cars, lets take off 12,000 cars divided by 480 cars a day that's 25 days (we'll take that off for holidays and such) so roughly 150,000 SHOULD/are going to be built by when they should change it to the 2011 model year.

SSPROJECT · 11-17-2009, 05:22 PM

my $.02 is this the ss was going to be the top of the line. now to keep the ss owners happy they are probably slowing production of the 2ss because that is what is selling the most compared to the other models. maybe GM was thinking the v6 was going to sell alot instead of the v8 . also GM released the camaro in 2009 as a 2010 model so they can produce the car longer and see how it does. no one know what is going to sell and what is not.

11-17-2009, 05:08 PM	#21
Dboy23 2G1FB1EV7A9100028 Drives: 2010 Jeep Wrangler Hemi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 882	Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 Production Days Wednesday (11/11) Thursday (11/12) Friday (11/13) Saturday (11/14) - 4 days Monday (11/16) - 10 days Monday (11/23) - 16 days Monday (11/30) - 22 days Monday (12/07) -28 days Monday (12/14) - 34 days Monday (12/21) - 40 days Monday (12/28) - 46 days Monday (1/4) - 52 days Monday (1/11) - 58 days Monday (1/18) - 64 days Monday (1/25) - 70 days Tuesday (1/26 - 71 days Wednesday (1/27) - 72 days That's with 100,000 cars being built, lets say 10 days off (work days) for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years. Monday (2/9) - 68 days Tuesday (2/10) - 69 days Wednesday (2/11) - 70 days Thursday (2/12) - 71 days Friday (2/13) - 72 days So with that being said lets say a week to ship it (maybe a bit more) at the LATEST the last car should arrive at the dealership (that's estimating that they're only building 100,000 cars) by the end of February sometime, which seems to early to me. __________________ # 28 - Victory Red 1LT/RS (SOLD)

11-17-2009, 05:20 PM	#25
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	Here we go again. Some Dealer who is an Idiot tells some "friend" what he thinks is happening and could not be more wrong. OP rushes on here to proclaim the facts with assurances that source is solid. Poster gets flamed by others who call BS and poster says " only conversation" after a few hundred have read it and tell EVERYONE they know it must be true.! Conversations about what was to be back in 07 or 08 are worthless. The projections were based on the way the car business was then..... It is a whole new world now. The 2010 CAMARO will be in available for 2009 and more than 1/2 of 2010. Find the right dealer and get what you want. __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America Last edited by OUR72GTO; 11-17-2009 at 06:53 PM.

11-17-2009, 05:22 PM	#27
Dboy23 2G1FB1EV7A9100028 Drives: 2010 Jeep Wrangler Hemi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 882	Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 Production Days Wednesday (11/11) Thursday (11/12) Friday (11/13) Saturday (11/14) - 4 days Monday (11/15) - 10 days Monday (11/22) - 16 days Monday (11/29) - 22 days Monday (12/6) -28 days Monday (12/13) - 34 days Monday (12/20) - 40 days Monday (12/27) - 46 days Monday (1/3) - 52 days Monday (1/10) - 58 days Monday (1/17) - 64 days Monday (1/24) - 70 days Monday (1/31) - 76 days Monday (2/7) - 82 days Monday (2/14) - 88 days Monday (2/21) - 94 days Monday (2/28) - 100 days Monday (3/7) - 106 days Monday (3/14) - 112 days Monday (3/21) - 118 days Monday (3/28) - 124 days Monday (4/4) - 130 days Monday (4/11) - 136 days Monday (4/18) - 142 days Monday (4/25) - 148 days Monday (5/2) - 154 days Monday (5/9) - 160 days Monday (5/16) - 166 days Monday (5/23) - 172 days Monday (5/30) - 178 days Monday (6/6) - 184 days Monday (6/13) - 190 days Monday (6/20) - 196 days Monday (6/27) - 197 days Tueday (6/28) - 198 days Wednesday (6/29) - 199 days Thursday (6/30) - 200 days - Last 2010 Production Day 200 x 480 is 96,000 more cars add that to 66,000 already built that's 162,000 cars, lets take off 12,000 cars divided by 480 cars a day that's 25 days (we'll take that off for holidays and such) so roughly 150,000 SHOULD/are going to be built by when they should change it to the 2011 model year. __________________ # 28 - Victory Red 1LT/RS (SOLD)

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11-17-2009, 04:42 PM	#16
armysig Catch me if you can Drives: 2012 IOM ZL-1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,461 View My Garage	I placed my order last Monday, The dealer had to do a call in order to complete it. I just got a copy of the build order last night. I'm just getting the basics. 1SS, Inferno Orange, RS package. Dealer estimates delivery sometime around late Jan, early Feb.

11-17-2009, 04:44 PM	#17
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	There are 4 2SSRS Camaros here in RI at Balise Chevrolet, anyone interested call Brian LaNinfa, there is an IBM, IOM, SIM, and a Black one, all Standard shift except the IBM.

11-17-2009, 04:51 PM	#18
JoeP@TeamBeckyD Drives: SS,PaceCar,ZL1,1LE,C7Z51,Z06,17-ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit, Mich Posts: 68,623	I think someone is trying to describe allocation and constraints. I can tell you for certain the the SS's ordered this week will all be 2010 models. The SS production is still less than 100%, but they are still building them. Model year change won't be til summer some time.

11-17-2009, 04:53 PM	#19
Black_2SS Drives: 2018 Camaro SS HotWheels Edition Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 276	They are only up in the 50,000 production mark. My vin is 52396 and it was built 10/2009. Don't they share some production w/ the corvette for the ls3? That could also hold things back if they use the same engine plant! OOPS* Sorry missed that last post. Well they were at the 50K mark in Oct, hows that.

11-17-2009, 05:10 PM	#22
ABM 2SS Drives: - Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Calgary, Ab Posts: 67	Some people think the 2011 model starts in January.

11-17-2009, 05:15 PM	#23
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,182	Hey carguy why are you bailing? because it's been proven that your "source" is mathematically wrong? Lets think about this for a minute. Canada has already taken their thanksgiving break weeks ago and they do not get their Christmas break until the 1st week of January. The 19,000 preordered cars WILL be built before the end of December easily. The 2011 model change over is not until the 1st week of July and they do not stop taking orders until mid May - first of June. This is how it has ALWAYS been and it WILL NOT be any different for the Camaro and sure as hell won't be different for the SS. So what you pretty much are saying is that "hey guys my moron for a source says that for 5 months after all of the current sold orders are filled you will not be able to buy a SS, which is the hottest car in North America and I'm stupid enough to believe him. But don't worry they will still be making the other trims." Next time before you go making a doom and gloom post get your facts straight and while your at, the next time your "inside source" tries to tell you something, DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. How does that saying go? It's best to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a moron then open it and prove them correct.

11-17-2009, 05:17 PM	#24
Ablue1 Drives: 2010SS2AquaBlue Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Williston SC Posts: 42 View My Garage	I think what he may be saying is that there are 19000 sold v8's in the system. If you have to build X# of v6 cars compared to V8 cars, all of the v8 cars may be allocated for production 2010 models. Coupled with the production of the engine t support the vette, the system may not be set up to build any more orders for 2010 v8's until 2011 model initiates. All the possible production of 2010 V8 builds may currently be allocated.

11-17-2009, 05:22 PM	#28
SSPROJECT barbarianmotorsports Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2009 Location: riverside ca. Posts: 137	my $.02 is this the ss was going to be the top of the line. now to keep the ss owners happy they are probably slowing production of the 2ss because that is what is selling the most compared to the other models. maybe GM was thinking the v6 was going to sell alot instead of the v8 . also GM released the camaro in 2009 as a 2010 model so they can produce the car longer and see how it does. no one know what is going to sell and what is not.