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RCPW · 12-25-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CTS

If You Have To Use Oil Additives Then You Are Using The Wrong Oil.

When I finally do get my 2SS I just want to try and make it "BETTER" if I possibly can that is why I posted this thread, I dont know if this product is Snake Oil or Not, Believe me when it comes time for me to have the oil changed I'll probably have it changed with Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil, I believe that is what comes with it from reading the Adobe .pdf Manual if i remember correctly, I just want to make my Camaro Better in every way Possible and for an extra $30-$35 every 6000 Miles Really isnt that much to spend since we're almost pretty much spending $3.00 for a gallon a gas at a well know gas station for good gas for our cars or $2.75 for gallon for crappy gas at a crappy gas station for your car.

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Originally Posted by Ksb2010ss

Couldn't have said it better ! I use only Mobil 1 synthetic in every vehicle I own and have never had a problem yet.

Ksb2010ss,...

I totally agree,... I plan on using the same oil

but again I just want to make my car Better is all that is why I started this thread to find out if this Oil Treatment Fluid is any good or not.

I'm still not convinced yet, Carrol Shelby is an old man, I dont know what his finances are, Plus he's a Mustang Guy and I can't stand Mustang's

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SleepWarz · 12-26-2009, 02:11 AM

I use royal purple.

Mzodarg · 12-26-2009, 02:55 AM

Redline racing oil for me. Use it in all my scooters and now my Maro.

Angrybird 12 · 12-26-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flyby

Oh just one more thought. I do not believe Carrol Shelby is hurting and is promoting a product for a little endorsement money. If he were, why not more endorsements. Can't think of any others. He says he believes in the product. I believed him, based on his rep. After using the product, I believe in it.

I thought he was part owner in the Company? I know the majority Stock holder is Speedway motorsports, but I thought Shelby still retained partial ownership...

camaro_eddie · 12-26-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by flyby

Well, I use Royal Purple. I also still use Z-Max. Let's see in oh ten years who has more out of pocket engine expenses. Bet I win. Many people have knee-jerk reactions. Mine are based on pure science and testing. Yes extensive testing. For a few dollars, more horsepower, lower friction, longer engine life, better gas mileage. I will continue spending a little more for a lot of benefits.

I would be willing to take that bet with you...

I use Amsoil based on scientific tests, studies, and personal experiences. It has treated me well and is the only oil I wold recommend, no additives needed. It blows RP out of the water, Mobil 1 is the only oil close to comparing to it.

CTS · 12-26-2009, 09:18 AM

How can it be that some additive manufacturer can have a miracle, cure-all additive without knowing the chemistry of the oil it will be used in? The answer is, they don't. They are masters at marketing, not science chemistry and engineering.

Anecdotal evidence based solely on the experiences of individual consumers and testimonials reporting specific performance attributes in the absence of reliable independent evidence showing performance capability is insufficient to support product claims.

All of these products are just psychological placebos. Simply use a good quality oil, it will have all the additives your engine needs, mixed right in. Oil additives only serve to lessen the effectiveness of your oil's additives and lubrication properties.

The Bottom Line Don't use any oil additives whatsoever, NONE of them are effective and many are damaging. Simply use a good quality oil, its got all the additives you need

BackinBlackSS/RS · 12-26-2009, 09:23 AM

Well, every super snake that Shelby builds has it in it.

camaro_eddie · 12-26-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CTS

How can it be that some additive manufacturer can have a miracle, cure-all additive without knowing the chemistry of the oil it will be used in? The answer is, they don't. They are masters at marketing, not science chemistry and engineering.

Anecdotal evidence based solely on the experiences of individual consumers and testimonials reporting specific performance attributes in the absence of reliable independent evidence showing performance capability is insufficient to support product claims.

All of these products are just psychological placebos. Simply use a good quality oil, it will have all the additives your engine needs, mixed right in. Oil additives only serve to lessen the effectiveness of your oil's additives and lubrication properties.

The Bottom Line Don't use any oil additives whatsoever, NONE of them are effective and many are damaging. Simply use a good quality oil, its got all the additives you need

BackinBlackSS/RS · 12-26-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CTS

Anyone who uses oil additives is just plain wasting money.

Now this I can believe. You can use it, but you don't NEED it.

alex33x · 12-26-2009, 12:44 PM

Wasnt slick 50 for high mileage cars? I dont remember anyone using it on a new car. Dont know anything about this product your talking about, but I used royal purple.

bballr4567 · 12-26-2009, 12:48 PM

People in here saying that its snake oil but then using Mobil 1 "synthetic" is kind of funny to me.

67MellowYellow · 12-26-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bballr4567

People in here saying that its snake oil but then using Mobil 1 "synthetic" is kind of funny to me.

How so? GM recommends syn for all LS series V8's. Probably has something to do with reducing carbon deposits in that engine amoing other things.

bballr4567 · 12-26-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 67MellowYellow

How so? GM recommends syn for all LS series V8's. Probably has something to do with reducing carbon deposits in that engine amoing other things.

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Hydrocracked/Hydroisomerized = API Group III base oils. Chevron, Shell, and other petrochemical companies developed processes involving catalytic conversion of feed stocks under pressure in the presence of hydrogen into high quality mineral lubricating oil. In 2005 production of GTL (Gas-to-liquid) Group III base stocks began. Even though they are considered a synthetic product they are still mineral base stocks and counted as the mineral part of all semi-synthetic lubricants. Group III base stocks [with certain amount of mixture of PAOs and esters and Group V] are considered synthetic motor oil ONLY in the United States. Group III based lubricants are not allowed to be marketed as "synthetic" in any market outside of the USA.

Mobil 1 also fits into that group. They are only synthetics in the US and NO WHERE else in the world.

Mobil 1 is the factory fill because Mobil 1 pays GM the most.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 12-26-2009, 03:05 PM

So for you Canada people, can you get Mobil 1 synthetic in your auto parts stores?

12-26-2009, 02:55 AM	#17
Mzodarg Remembering those in Blue Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Blk w/IOM Int Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 479	Redline racing oil for me. Use it in all my scooters and now my Maro. __________________ SOLD. www.harleytechtalk.org

12-26-2009, 09:18 AM	#20
CTS Drives: 2021 Sierra Denali 6.2L/10sp CC 4WD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houghton, Michigan Posts: 234 View My Garage	How can it be that some additive manufacturer can have a miracle, cure-all additive without knowing the chemistry of the oil it will be used in? The answer is, they don't. They are masters at marketing, not science chemistry and engineering. Anecdotal evidence based solely on the experiences of individual consumers and testimonials reporting specific performance attributes in the absence of reliable independent evidence showing performance capability is insufficient to support product claims. All of these products are just psychological placebos. Simply use a good quality oil, it will have all the additives your engine needs, mixed right in. Oil additives only serve to lessen the effectiveness of your oil's additives and lubrication properties. The Bottom Line Don't use any oil additives whatsoever, NONE of them are effective and many are damaging. Simply use a good quality oil, its got all the additives you need __________________ Mike Synthoil Supply 2021 GMC Sierra Denali CC Ultimate 6.2L

12-26-2009, 09:23 AM	#21
BackinBlackSS/RS Go Blue!!!!! Drives: 2012 Cruze LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 23,290	Well, every super snake that Shelby builds has it in it. Last edited by BackinBlackSS/RS; 12-26-2009 at 09:34 AM.

12-26-2009, 12:44 PM	#24
alex33x Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 688	Wasnt slick 50 for high mileage cars? I dont remember anyone using it on a new car. Dont know anything about this product your talking about, but I used royal purple. __________________ Devliered July 20, 2012

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