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06-12-2011, 01:19 PM | #128 |
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I am very glad that this will be a regular production vehicles. It gives the zl1 a chance at being a sales and image draw for the camaro, as well as giving an opportunity for enthused fans to buy one.
As for the prices, its been my experience that any car can be bought at the right price (meaning no mark-ups). The key will be using some "street smarts" when shopping, and finding that dealer that wants to make an honest sale. I don't believe in mark-ups (and neither does the resale market) and I'll never overpay for a new car; However it will all depend on how well the car sells in order to obtain a good discount. Timing will definitely be the key in getting a zl1 at the right price.
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06-12-2011, 01:20 PM | #129 |
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After spending lots o' money modding Jeeps and cars a $55K price tag is a deal. Can you get an SS to 575 at the crank for a a little money? Yes. Can you get an SS to 575 w/ magnetic supension, active exhaust, bigger brakes, bigger drive shaft, bigger half shafts, stronger torque converter, stronger transmission, improved aeros, working hood, improved interior, etc.? Not even close. And you'll be able to have a warranty if you can bear not to touch it.
Hell I had that much in an 01 Jeep TJ(Wrangler) when all was said and done and I did 90% or the labor. Believe it or not thes car is a bargain. I'm sure there are guys here w/ that much into their SSs pretty quick w/ some mods to go. And trust me there can be a ton of headaches when modding a car in regards to reliability and drivability. |
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06-12-2011, 01:33 PM | #131 |
Those of us with modded SS's could care less about a warranty.....we knew the consequences for our actions. I have barely used any warranty I have ever had on my vehicles. For the price of a ZL1, I would have a nice used Z06 in my garage. The ZL1 is a great looking car, minus the steering wheel, and I'm sure if I didn't have my modded SS I would look at one after the price comes down a bit, but all this talk about warranties kills me. I'm still right around the price tag of a ZL1 with all my upgrades including my new 418 stroker motor. Can't wait to give the ZL1 a beat down with my supposed inferior parts car. Call me when the warrantied ZL1 hits low 10s like mine and we will have a better argument........until then, who cares about one. Have fun with both cars. Those of us that race regularly don't think about these things anyways. If it breaks, then fix it with better, stronger parts.
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06-12-2011, 01:35 PM | #133 | |
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Valid points and you very well could be correct. We shall see if a two quarter production run and over-zealous dealers impact the bottom line on the contract. I am still betting the mark-up will be over the top for at least the first year. If they continue to produce, the prices will self-correct. I'm not in the market for one so I'll just sit back and watch. On another note, nice little collection in your stable.
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06-12-2011, 01:41 PM | #134 |
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I am absolutely just giddy about this car!
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Yes,but it will never be a ZL1, nor will never have the esteem and value! My money is on the ZL1. |
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06-12-2011, 01:46 PM | #136 |
And on another note......all the extra goodies on the ZL1 are great, but to upgrade to the ones you actually need on an SS is not that expensive. I have no drivability issues and no trouble with braking. I won't be on a road course so I'm good there too. Driveshaft is fine and so is the tranny. If they go, I will replace them. I'm sure the car is a bargain, but I for one am not butt hurt by it for any reason. I like my early production SS. And it makes it even more fun when a car that is not supposed to be that fast wipes the floor with Shelbys and Z06's at the track. I also don't care about the ZL1 name. I didn't mod mine to be one. I modded it to be a bad ass SS pony killer.
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Really though, unless your putting slicks on there, there is only so much you can get out of some street tires before its all a level playing field anyways really. |
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Then why are you posting in the ZL1 thread and trying to rain on our parade? You may not care about warranty but many of us do. I've been there, done that, and have that T-shirt. I'm done turning wrenches. If that's what you want to do then more power to you. But coming in to this thread to defend whatever you're trying to defend or justify isn't productive or condusive to this particlular thread. You say you're not butt hurt but you words and actions tell otherwise. |
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06-12-2011, 01:54 PM | #139 |
Ok.....the first time a ZL1 pulls up next to me and I blow it's doors off, I'll ask the guy about the esteem and value of owning it.
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