2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by SIRLOIN

Yes. Yes you were. If you wanna discuss all times, be prepared to do it with both cars...

a 12.2 from a joe blow magazine editor is pretty damn impressive... Especially with no seat time, in a car that was probably heat soaked to death before he even got in it. Don't make me post some of the times i have seen some of the mags get in the Z... It's not pretty...

The worst mag time was 12.6 (definitely an outlier) and all the rest were low 12's, which were similar to the times Road and Track and Car and Drive got out of the 2013 GT500. I'm not arguing rather or not the GT500 is noticeably faster in ideal conditions, I'm just arguing against the fact that some are making it out to be something less than a drivers race between the two in the real world. Make no mistake, both of these cars lined up are going to be a driver's race and not the nuclear bomb some on the other side are wanting it to be.

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by Partick

The funny thing is 99% of those that buy either one of these beasts will never know how to or actually drive them to their full potential...lol it really comes down to chest thumping and bragging rights on the internet. The Mustang looks badass and is a little quicker than the ZL1...good for Ford on this round and good for us because we all win with the Pony car wars.

My 2SS still scares the crap out of me when the nannies are off so this bantering is actually comical.

You've been watching me drive my '13 have you

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Lindsey252

Could this be an alternative to a Nissan GT-R?

Well, maybe from a roll race.

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Very well said sir.

As for the Cuda. Its real, very real.

I have a friend from detroit thats well connected to the drive srt team. Very well connected. He came visit the shop this weekend and is arranging to fly my good friend/shop owner to fly to detroit and have meeting with the ceo of SRT. Ralph Gilles.

He said he has seen the Cuda with his own two eyes. Its already built/mocked up. It will be riding on a much smaller fiat platform. It will be packing a supercharged destroked 6.4, it will be a 6.2L.

Thats awesome man! I can't wait to see it... If it really is gonna be that much smaller packing that supercharged motor, im sure the thing will be a beast... Lightweight with big HP... Thats a nasty combo!

[WE485]

Who gives a crap about few tenth's difference. I'm still buying ZL1. Give it up ford trolls.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by WE485

Who gives a crap about few tenth's difference. I'm still buying ZL1. Give it up ford trolls.

If you were really so secure in your decision then why the need to call out the trolls?

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by christianmotox

Am i on a Mustang forum? i swear i had to look twice at my browsers address.

Amazing isn't it, how The Shelby is so dominating everywhere...

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by Lindsey252

I honestly think the two cars are only making each other better. We know the pony wars over the years were generally close, but always seemed to land on the camaro's side.

Um, really? Does that include going out of production?

[tnspd]

Bring the GT500 to the track and I'll post a video of a ZL1 beating it. Any car can be beat on a given day.

[eolson]

I agree, a back to back comparison with good weather and track conditions and an objective professional driver will be awesome. See what the track times are head to head. Then we'll know how the engineers for the GT500 really did with the harmony of the power, suspension upgrades and braking. Can't wait! Erik

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by haulsazzna

Great! When are you bringing it to SAR so I can spank it with my Mustang GT? I'll be sure to have it on video and everything.

I'm sure everyone would be proud of you too.

[IOMZL1]

None of this should really be a surprise to anyone. GT500 faster in the straight line as has been expected since the 650 HP announcement. GT500 not guaranteed in the 11s for every situation/driver because of traction. GT500 has improved handling over the 2012 model as expected. GT500 needs all the cooling it can get (no grille). GT500 has improved brakes that still don't seem quite as good as the ZL1.

Now what we need is a same track/day comparison between ZL1 and GT500 to see what happens on the track. Repeat with different types of tracks. When this happens remember the price of the GT500 with performance pack and the GG tax is moot.

Clearly the GT500 wins on the drag strip in most cases. What will happen at the road course and on the street (not drag racing, comfort and driveability) is not as black and white.

Both great cars, neither is perfect. Both will appeal to people differently. No clear winner will be crowned. And you don't have to buy either - many other options out there including the SLP cars.

I'd bet no matter what GM will respond in some degree with the ZL1 after 2013 and if that happens Ford may decide to do the same.

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

Actually lower gears tend to read LOWER on the dyno believe it or not.

This is truth.

[Vintage-Iron]

I just sold my 2012 5.0 Mustang for a 2012 1SS/RS with a 6 spd manual. BOTH the Chevy and Ford are great cars, both run great...Neither is better than the other its all a matter of personal preference.....Cant we all just get along?....LOL