Well stick a fork in my A$$ cause I'm about at a piping 120 degrees!

[GaryTucker]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin1LT

I don't think I was being mean or saying anything derogatory towards Gary. I did not attack his "person". I understand that my "brand" of personality doesn't fit everyone. In all of my responses I did not in any way berate him or call him names. Infact, the opposite is true. But honestly I am not bothered by it.

Obviously I read too much into the following quote- "And I honestly didn't expect "panty bunching" with this tread..... Can we pull out our wedgies and be alittle kinder?"

Maybe we just read too much into each other's posts...call it a draw and move on to more important things than adding to the nonsense on the web?

[Pumpkin1LT]

Originally Posted by GaryTucker

Obviously I read too much into the following quote- "And I honestly didn't expect "panty bunching" with this tread..... Can we pull out our wedgies and be alittle kinder?"

Maybe we just read too much into each other's posts...call it a draw and move on to more important things than adding to the nonsense on the web?

Well done! I agree Gary. I didn't mean just you there... I was speaking to the majority (myself included). I can be abit harsh but I'm not unreasonable. My apologies for wrangling you up Gary.... Peace!

[GaryTucker]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin1LT

Well done! I agree Gary. I didn't mean just you there... I was speaking to the majority (myself included). I can be abit harsh but I'm not unreasonable. My apologies for wrangling you up Gary.... Peace!

Not a problem. I understand and hold no grudge. Have a great day.

[Pumpkin1LT]

I really am as sweet as pie! REALLY! .

[Pumpkin1LT]

And i DIDNT mean that to be dirty!!!!!!!

[wylde1]

There's only one way to settle this....

[The Reaper]

That's better! Now you kids keep playing nice and maybe we will stop for ice cream to go along with the pie!

Sorry...just couldn't stop myself

[MontyCarlo]

The "...for Dummies" web site actually has an article to explain this!

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ty-intact.html

Excerpt:
Under this federal statute, a manufacturer who issues a warranty on your motor vehicle is prohibited from requiring you to use a service or maintenance item, unless such item is provided, free of charge, under your warranty or unless the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) waives this prohibition against the manufacturer.

Further, under the act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warranty, or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure.

[GaryTucker]

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

The "...for Dummies" web site actually has an article to explain this!

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ty-intact.html

Excerpt:
Under this federal statute, a manufacturer who issues a warranty on your motor vehicle is prohibited from requiring you to use a service or maintenance item, unless such item is provided, free of charge, under your warranty or unless the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) waives this prohibition against the manufacturer.

Further, under the act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warranty, or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure.

But who really has the money to fight a denial? Magnusson-Moss is a deterrent for companies, but denials happen regularly across the industry. It is a case of David vs. Goliath...and unfortunately David usually can't afford to compete in this contest. If your warranty is denied, it is going to be your dime that has to be used to get it reinstated. Just simply "screaming M-M at the top of your lungs" in the service department won't get you anything other than maybe a trip "downtown" for another fun experience.

I'm not disputing what M-M says...just pointing out the fallacy in government-planning and government-enforcement.

[MontyCarlo]

You could say the same for any law. If people generally let an organization get away with breaking a law due to the inconvenience & cost of fighting them, the company will keep breaking it. Telling people to give up & not fight it just perpetuates the problem.

[Pumpkin1LT]

I scream
you scream
we all scream
for icecream!

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin1LT

I scream
you scream
we all scream
for icecream!

Ice cream. YUMMY!!!!

[SDCamaro10]

For a dealer to void your warranty, they HAVE to PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that the modification caused the failure. However, if your modification requires you the open the engine block, heads, valve cover, transmission whatever, kiss the warranty good bye. An aftermarket exhaust will not void your engine warranty, and a CAI will not void your warranty either(unless you have the Injen and you think the car is thirsty and decide to drive into a lake to quench its thirst...).. seems like you need to find a different dealership. I find that most dealerships will tell people that any mod will void warranty if they think they can get away with it. how many average joe's know that a minor mod such as an intake or exhaust wont void warranty?

[daphatgrant]

I guess I had better check with my local dealership and my surrounding ones first. I'm glad I read this thread as I almost had my garbage can sized mufflers hacked off this afternoon .