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BEECHFRONT · 11-19-2016, 12:32 PM

I am looking to do some bolt on mods and have some questions.

I am doing
Cai
10" lower pulley
ID 850 injectors
LT headers/cats
Bap
CC
Hx
IC resevoir

Do I need a tune with these mods?
Is there anything else required to make these bolt on's work?

Thanks.

wrtowman · 11-19-2016, 12:38 PM

Yes, you will need a tune.

crazydave · 11-19-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BEECHFRONT

I am looking to do some bolt on mods and have some questions.

I am doing
Cai
10" lower pulley
ID 850 injectors

Do I need a tune with these mods?
Is there anything else required to make these bolt on's work?

Thanks.

You are going to need more fuel as well. I was able to get away with a 9.55" but anything over a 9.55" and your going to néed a BAP. With that level of boost, I would probably do headers as well to drop the boost a bit.

The big questions that never seems to get asked is, what do you plan on doing with the car? What are your goals?

BEECHFRONT · 11-19-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crazydave

You are going to need more fuel as well. I was able to get away with a 9.55" but anything over a 9.55" and your going to néed a BAP. With that level of boost, I would probably do headers as well to drop the boost a bit.

The big questions that never seems to get asked is, what do you plan on doing with the car? What are your goals?

Some drag and spirited driving for now

Possibly some track in the future

BEECHFRONT · 11-19-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wrtowman

Yes, you will need a tune.

can it safely be driven to get a tune after I install?

Crash76 · 11-19-2016, 01:39 PM

Get a hold of Ted at Jannetty Racing... he can set you up with everything including tune

ZO6 Bryan · 11-19-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BEECHFRONT

can it safely be driven to get a tune after I install?

No!

BEECHFRONT · 11-19-2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

No!

Thanks

crazydave · 11-19-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash76

Get a hold of Ted at Jannetty Racing... he can set you up with everything including tune

I am not personally pushing a particular vendor, but Ted does assembe some good combos of parts. Check him out as well as some of the other forum sponsors and see if you can find a package deal. Personally fron your listed goals I wouldn't go any higher than a 9.10 lower to keep some traction on the street and boost temps reasonable.

1KillerSS · 11-19-2016, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BEECHFRONT

can it safely be driven to get a tune after I install?

99 percent of the time I agree with ZO6bryan, however I think if your only going a few miles, and don't put your foot into it, you will be ok. That being said, he knows a hell of a lot more about ZL1's than I do, and the mods your doing to it.

Best thing I can tell you to do is get a hold of a tuner who can get you a startup file, then do some remote tuning. Or have him get you a startup file so you can drive it into his shop.

d454brisson · 11-20-2016, 07:38 AM

The ID850s will need a tune to get the flow rates correct, i think it would be super rich and hard to keep from flooding the cats without a base tune for those at least.

When I did my 850s I had a Jannetty tune and it fired and idled right up. I didnt start it with out the tune to see if it would idle.

DB

Stephen12ZL1 · 11-20-2016, 07:58 AM

do not start the car with ID850s without at least a revision in the fuel injector flow table. It will start, but it will be extremely rich as stated above.

ZO6 Bryan · 11-20-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

do not start the car with ID850s without at least a revision in the fuel injector flow table. It will start, but it will be extremely rich as stated above.

Yes it will flood out. You can install all the other parts and drive it easily and be allright. But as soon as you put the injectors in it will need tuning to even get it to run.

BEECHFRONT · 11-20-2016, 02:13 PM

Thanks for all the advice.

11-19-2016, 12:32 PM	#1
BEECHFRONT Drives: 2013-ZL1, 69-Z28, 71-CHEVELLE SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: South Jersey Posts: 268	Bolt on mod questions I am looking to do some bolt on mods and have some questions. I am doing Cai 10" lower pulley ID 850 injectors LT headers/cats Bap CC Hx IC resevoir Do I need a tune with these mods? Is there anything else required to make these bolt on's work? Thanks. Last edited by BEECHFRONT; 02-09-2017 at 06:49 PM.

11-19-2016, 12:38 PM	#2
wrtowman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Warner Robins Ga Posts: 778	Yes, you will need a tune. __________________ 2011 SGM Camaro 1SS/RS A6 - Vengeance Racing built/tuned. 590RWHP/560RWTQ, ADM LSA Conversion, 2.5 Grip-Tec, ZL1 fuel pump, ADM FPCM, FIC1000, VRPD2 Cam and LS3 Conversion with all the internal goodies, American Racing 1 7/8 Headers, no cats, SW Retro Cat Back, ADM Intake, AFCO HX, Varimax Pump, Rotofab Reservoir, B&M Transmission Cooler, VMAX TB, Elite Engineering CC, BMR LCAs, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, DSS 1000hp axles, ZL1 Bumper and Sideskirts, Night Owl Halos, Matte Black 20" Rohana RC-22 with 20x10-275s/20x11-315s, R1 Concept Premier Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hawk Ceramic Pads.

11-20-2016, 07:58 AM	#12
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,812	do not start the car with ID850s without at least a revision in the fuel injector flow table. It will start, but it will be extremely rich as stated above. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

11-19-2016, 01:39 PM	#6
Crash76 Team 913 Drives: '14 ZL1, '15 Jeep GC, ‘22 Ram 2500 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA, Central CA Posts: 1,119	Get a hold of Ted at Jannetty Racing... he can set you up with everything including tune

11-20-2016, 07:38 AM	#11
d454brisson Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 345	The ID850s will need a tune to get the flow rates correct, i think it would be super rich and hard to keep from flooding the cats without a base tune for those at least. When I did my 850s I had a Jannetty tune and it fired and idled right up. I didnt start it with out the tune to see if it would idle. DB

11-20-2016, 02:13 PM	#14
BEECHFRONT Drives: 2013-ZL1, 69-Z28, 71-CHEVELLE SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: South Jersey Posts: 268	Thanks for all the advice.