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Old 02-27-2013, 08:05 AM   #1
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Exclamation Flaw: Brakes stop working!

A few days ago, I was stuck in traffic on a hill doing about 1 mile per hour (welcome to California). Like a sensible person I am, I decided to turn off my engine and coast downhill in neutral. Okay. I was driving like normal for about 5 minutes. And then all the sudden the brakes stop working sending me on a speedy course into the car in front of me! My quick reaction, I had to turn the engine back on to reengage the brakes. Whoa... close call. I decided to try it again to see if it would do this again (with the car in front of me about a whole car length in front now). And behold, it did it again! I have been driving for 24 years and owned 5 cars (non-GM) prior to this and none of my other cars ever disengaged brake while in neutral.

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Old 02-27-2013, 08:09 AM   #2
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A few days ago, I was stuck in traffic on a hill doing about 1 mile per hour (welcome to California). Like a sensible person I am, I decided to turn off my engine and coast downhill in neutral. Okay. I was driving like normal for about 5 minutes. And then all the sudden the brakes stop working sending me on a speedy course into the car in front of me! My quick reaction, I had to turn the engine back on to reengage the brakes. Whoa... close call. I decided to try it again to see if it would do this again (with the car in front of me about a whole car length in front now). And behold, it did it again! I have been driving for 24 years and owned 5 cars (non-GM) prior to this and none of my other cars ever disengaged brake while in neutral.
This is a HUGE design flaw and this needs to be fixed!!! This car has given me PTSD and now I freak out everytime I have to brake.
Maybe I am wrong here, but these are power brakes, with the power off I would not expect them to work. I know every car I had this was pretty much the same, when I would roll my car in the driveway with the car off the brakes really did not work well. I certainly would not do it down a hill.

Beside why are you coasting down a hill with your car off, that in itself cannot be safe.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:11 AM   #3
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That is normal. Any car with Power Brakes will have a hard time stopping without the engine running. No need to worry. These cars just require more vacuum to run the brakes. Drive on my friend, drive on.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:15 AM   #4
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If the brake is pressed, it should remain on. Just like when you hit the power button on the radio... it turns on and the same with the brake lights. Seems like a simple fix. As far as steering... it stopped working too, but I wasn't really worried about that since I was moving so slowly.

Another thing I noticed was that, the brake pedal didn't go down all the way, it felt like there was a brick or something wedged underneath the brake pedal when it shut off.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:16 AM   #5
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Not only is this dangerous but also ignorant. Not sure what year model started the electric steering but you have power steering as well as power brakes. Without the engine running you won't have either.

Not only are you risking your life but you endangered others as well.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:22 AM   #6
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If the brake is pressed, it should remain on. Just like when you hit the power button on the radio... it turns on and the same with the brake lights. Seems like a simple fix. As far as steering... it stopped working too, but I wasn't really worried about that since I was moving so slowly.
You are comparing a battery powered device to a device powered by engine power / vacuum. Not going to work that way.

Radio has an on/off switch, brakes to not for obvious reasons.

I can honestly say I am glad I don't live near you.
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All I have to say is WOW

There's a flaw alright, but not with the car
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A few days ago, I was stuck in traffic on a hill doing about 1 mile per hour (welcome to California). Like a sensible person I am, I decided to turn off my engine and coast downhill in neutral. Okay. I was driving like normal for about 5 minutes. And then all the sudden the brakes stop working sending me on a speedy course into the car in front of me! My quick reaction, I had to turn the engine back on to reengage the brakes. Whoa... close call. I decided to try it again to see if it would do this again (with the car in front of me about a whole car length in front now). And behold, it did it again! I have been driving for 24 years and owned 5 cars (non-GM) prior to this and none of my other cars ever disengaged brake while in neutral.
This is a HUGE design flaw and this needs to be fixed!!! This car has given me PTSD and now I freak out everytime I have to brake.
What kind of sensible person turns off their engine while moving on a public road?
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Is this guy serious?!?!WTF.......
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:27 AM   #10
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It's not a flaw, it's how it was designed. It is designed to work with vacuum. You were putting yourself and everyone else at risk by attempting this.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:28 AM   #13
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Is this guy serious?!?!WTF.......
Other cars I have owned didn't do this. That's why I did it.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:30 AM   #14
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A few days ago, I was stuck in traffic on a hill doing about 1 mile per hour (welcome to California). Like a sensible person I am, I decided to turn off my engine and coast downhill in neutral. Okay. I was driving like normal for about 5 minutes. And then all the sudden the brakes stop working sending me on a speedy course into the car in front of me! My quick reaction, I had to turn the engine back on to reengage the brakes. Whoa... close call. I decided to try it again to see if it would do this again (with the car in front of me about a whole car length in front now). And behold, it did it again! I have been driving for 24 years and owned 5 cars (non-GM) prior to this and none of my other cars ever disengaged brake while in neutral.
This is a HUGE design flaw and this needs to be fixed!!! This car has given me PTSD and now I freak out everytime I have to brake.


Do you have a death wish or something?Worse yet, you might kill or injure someone else with your ignorance!!!
Why are you driving with the car turned off?
as others have eluded to, the brakes and steering are POWER, and require the car to be running to be 100% effective.

The camaro is a performance type car and require the system to be on to be functional to it's fullest potential for how it was designed.

definitely not a problem with your car,I am not sure what types of cars you have owned in the past but all my previous cars if the engine was off for whatever reason there was a significant drop in braking and steering ability.
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