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Old 07-15-2014, 04:40 AM   #15
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:23 AM   #16
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Talk to Andy at ADM, he's done a lot of E85 builds and makes his own twin pump set up. I got one of the first ones almost 5 years ago and I've had no issues. I'm about to turn 100k on my 700+ daily driver.
He can steer you in the right direction.
Just a heads up that the ADM twin pump will not run on E85. Andy told me to go with Squash instead. I just shot him a quick e-mail to check.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:33 AM   #17
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I run the squash system with id1300s and DSX tuning flex fuel sensor. Works perfect
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:15 AM   #18
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Yeah, I was really surprised when he told me that earlier today. I thought I might have misunderstood something but I could've swore that I would pick up 30-40 HP by the E85 (and extra timing) alone. Glad it wasn't just me.

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The biggest thing you will gain is torque with the Maggie on E85, I gained about 50 ft lbs on the same boost and yes you must have misunderstood your tuner because looking at his reply, he's my tuner also
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:47 PM   #19
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Hey guys, after a little more research, it sure sounds like E85 will slowly start to deteriorate your fuel lines? If this happens, it can end up clogging an injector. Anyone have any experience with this? I have no doubt that the short term effects of E85 are all good, but what about those of us that want to keep their car for a long time. I would rather not kill my brand new ID-850's!

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Old 07-15-2014, 04:05 PM   #20
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To me e85 has never been that appealing. I already make enough to blow tires off whenever I want so why do I need more power, more hassle, and potential downsides.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:56 AM   #21
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I decided to go down the methanol road, I am right now using a very similar set up ie 3.4 pulley, ZL1 pump etc on the TVS 2300. I was running a 91/100 octane mix to get the power I wanted but the 100 octane keep jumping a $1 at a time and is $8+ a gallon. I will let you know after my tuner get a hold of it, if there are is any major improvments. Good luck with which ever route you go.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:30 AM   #22
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I decided to go down the methanol road, I am right now using a very similar set up ie 3.4 pulley, ZL1 pump etc on the TVS 2300. I was running a 91/100 octane mix to get the power I wanted but the 100 octane keep jumping a $1 at a time and is $8+ a gallon. I will let you know after my tuner get a hold of it, if there are is any major improvments. Good luck with which ever route you go.
I would really appreciate any update as I've considered meth as well. I'm pretty seriously considering just using Torco for a separate "race tune" for when I go to the track. This would get my octane up and my tuner should be able to get me more timing/HP this way in the meantime. I don't want to live on Torco but this might be a decent option for the time being? I'm open to suggestions. Thanks!
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Old 07-16-2014, 08:56 AM   #23
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I only run E85 in my car. But, I have teflon braided fuel lines, twin pumps, aftermarket rails, and 100lb injectors. Overkill, yes....just the way any forced induction fuel system should be. Car sits for days or over a week at a time, I turn the key, it starts, no issues. Oh, I pump it directly into my tank from the gas station without testing it.

If you have E85 readily available to you and want to upgrade your fuel system, DO IT.

Do yourself a bigger favor and jump outside this forum and do some research on forced induction cars with E85.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:04 AM   #24
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E85 is great in many applications. For others, not so much. Learn the advantages and disadvantages and make up your own mind.

I max the blower out on 91 octane and have more power than I can hook, so having to drive across town to get e85 is just more of a pain than it is worth. If I was going from 600 to 700 with it and had traction, I would consider it. But going from 1050 to 1080 or so doesn't make a difference to me, and car runs fine on 91 so unless I had a way to take advantage of it I'll stick to 91 and fill up anywhere.

I think e85 is great on cars in the 400-700 range if you can get 50+ and it is available easily. Once you get to the point of making 800+ on pump and can blow tires of at will either way, it becomes less appealing to me.

And if anything, run flex fuel. If e85 is close and available, use it, blend it, or just run pump and let the car adjust for it.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:14 AM   #25
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^^^ specifically the turboforums and the new supercharger forums. Ton of them using e85. I ran it in my twin chevelle and it was amazing. I had crazy over boost issues 25 plus psi with NO DETONATION. That was with a wide band reading so lean it didn't register. All the n/a guys are using it around here and they swear by it. Do it and don't look back!
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E85 is a perfect match with boost a fuel the doesn't detonate, runs cooler I don't see the down side. Yes you use more so you fill up often and if you're having trouble getting traction because on this you make more power, it sounds like a tire problem not a fuel problem. No matter what anyone says you can never have to much power.
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Old 07-16-2014, 10:43 AM   #27
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Thanks for the comments guys. As far as a "downside" to E85, the only one that I see is the potential for deteriorating my stock fuel lines and ending up plugging an expensive injector? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm just trying to make an informed decision. I DO have the E85 readily available and it kind of seems like a waste not to enjoy the benefits. I don't mind if I lose a little fuel economy. It's hardly a DD. I will also prob never be above 700 HP. I'd love to do a cam but I can't spend the $2500-$3000 that it will cost including labor (with the LS3 conversion).
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:24 AM   #28
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Thanks for the comments guys. As far as a "downside" to E85, the only one that I see is the potential for deteriorating my stock fuel lines and ending up plugging an expensive injector? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm just trying to make an informed decision. I DO have the E85 readily available and it kind of seems like a waste not to enjoy the benefits. I don't mind if I lose a little fuel economy. It's hardly a DD. I will also prob never be above 700 HP. I'd love to do a cam but I can't spend the $2500-$3000 that it will cost including labor (with the LS3 conversion).
Haven't heard that one on a Camaro, same material used by GM on their flex fuel cars and trucks, most of what you hear is really pointed towards methonal and people always include E85 when they are not the same, they did a episode on one of the tv auto mechanics shows about the myth of E85 deteriorating the fuel system, compare a E85 high mileage car to a standard gas and the gas cars system was the one worn out and britle, the E85 stuff all looked new and was still flexible, you can do more research and find stores going both ways on it's good or bad on the fuel system, but they did a complete tear down and showed no ill effects from using it.
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