[90503]

Well, one of two things should become clear soon...

If all that's included in the 1LE is priced as an additional 4-5K, I'd call it a very good bargain....If that's the case, the pricing now for optional MRC, NPP, and brake upgrades for a standard 1 or 2SS will look like a rip-off....I don't see how they could justify anything less than a 7-8K price for the 1LE option.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

After having a night to think about it I'm on the fence. A few things from this thread

1) I was 100% wrong when I said in another thread that there was no way it will be available on a V6. I still think they should have given it a different RPO code but GM has proven time and time again that they don't care about the heritage of RPO codes (I don't mean that in a bad way, just a statement)

This could turn out to be an astute move. On the surface, it's aimed directly at the Ecoboost Perf Package Mustangs. But better than that it may open up the idea of running on road courses to a slightly new audience. Trust me, 300-and-change HP can be a lot of fun on the tracks even if you don't see the same peak speeds as the folks with similarly chassis prep and 400+ HP V8 engines.

2) People say that it's good that it's not available with an auto as the manual is the only way to go on a race car. While that used to be the case, the 8L90 is every bit as fast as a manual around tracks now. Gone are the days of 3 and 4 speed autos with no manual abilities. It would be nice to have the option. I'm still getting a manual if I get a 1LE but I see the appeal now with current autos and how good they are.

This is coming down to differences in the experience rather than differences in measured performance. As good as automatics have become technically/mechanically, and as much better as they may get in the future, they can't replace the satisfaction that's there when you get it right all by yourself, shift after shift, lap after lap.

5) Like someone else mentioned, no drilled front rotors on the 6 pots. I'm curious if this was a slight cost savings measure or a performance measure. Interesting.

Performance.

Every hole is a potential crack-starter when you're driving on the track as hard as you and the car can go for ~20 minutes at a time. The kind of thermal expansion you get when things get hot enough to crack pads rated to beyond 1350°F also puts a brutal beating on the rotors. This is a cyclic heating event that happens in a very short amount of time, every time you're hard on the brakes for an upcoming corner, and it's mainly the cyclic fatigue effects that cause cracks to develop and then grow.


Norm

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Somewhat disappointed the Recaros are standard. Sadly the don't fir my backside very well. I sit higher in them which in the Gen6 will all but eliminate the headroom for me.

Just guessing but with the brakes and Recaros alone that is about $6,000 in options. So adding the other content they may be trying to keep the price and weight down for the package.

Seems easy enough down the road to add it to the 2SS but a 2SS 1LE might crack 50k.

Look forward to some track comparisons in the future for sure. This seems enough on paper to be ahead of ATS-V and M4.

We cant compare the LPO brake upgrade price to this factory upgrade. It will be cheaper this way.

[detltu]

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, one of two things should become clear soon...

If all that's included in the 1LE is priced as an additional 4-5K, I'd call it a very good bargain....If that's the case, the pricing now for optional MRC and brake upgrades for a standard 1 or 2SS will look like a rip-off....I don't see how they could justify anything less than a 7-8K price for the 1LE option.

Good point. It will be interesting to see.
Good news is those who want a 2SS or auto or sunroof or whatever can add MRC, big brakes, etc. and build their own version. As many said before hand, the SS is already so good, not everyone needs a 1LE.

I think part of the appeal of the 1LE is that it is limited. 3rd gens were limited by not many people knowing about them (as well as no A/C). The 5th gens were manual only. Now they have opened it up to the V6, but taken away the 2SS and still manual only. All of these things make it a little bit of a rarity so those who buy it get something unique. I still get excited when I see a 5th gen 1LE. That's part of what you are buying with the 1LE.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, one of two things should become clear soon...

If all that's included in the 1LE is priced as an additional 4-5K, I'd call it a very good bargain....If that's the case, the pricing now for optional MRC, NPP, and brake upgrades for a standard 1 or 2SS will look like a rip-off....I don't see how they could justify anything less than a 7-8K price for the 1LE option.

interesting....

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

very well - I bet you will still upgrade and just take out the MRC and sell it.

cuz it's that much better than the 5th...you know it.

Or he will test drive one and "I dont want it!" will turn in to "I need it!"

[infinitiboy92]

If only I could learn to drive a manual transmission.

[Cam 6]

Originally Posted by detltu

Good point. It will be interesting to see.
Good news is those who want a 2SS or auto or sunroof or whatever can add MRC, big brakes, etc. and build their own version. As many said before hand, the SS is already so good, not everyone needs a 1LE.

I think part of the appeal of the 1LE is that it is limited. 3rd gens were limited by not many people knowing about them (as well as no A/C). The 5th gens were manual only. Now they have opened it up to the V6, but taken away the 2SS and still manual only. All of these things make it a little bit of a rarity so those who buy it get something unique. I still get excited when I see a 5th gen 1LE. That's part of what you are buying with the 1LE.

I doubt I will track any car I may buy, but having something that is highly capable is definitely part of the lure of the 1LE.

For me the Recaros, NO spectrum lighting, optional PDR, the wheels and black accents make it a winner and raises the bar.

I have been cross-shopping with a Vette since the 6th Gen came out. I thought about placing an order a couple weeks ago and, for whatever reason in my gut, couldn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the 1LE is the reason why.

[Cam 6]

Originally Posted by infinitiboy92

If only I could learn to drive a manual transmission.

Youtube, my man, youtube. There's a hundred great vids on it. Piece of cake.

[allabtsprt]

Read all 14 pages so far and I can't believe I only saw this mentioned once. I guess we're the minority on this issue.

I can't stand the front grille on the V8. Looks like every Lexus and other foreign car out there. This car is unique. Keep it that way. Do something different with the front grille! This alone is enough for me not to buy one.

[detltu]

Originally Posted by Cam 6

I doubt I will track any car I may buy, but having something that is highly capable is definitely part of the lure of the 1LE.

For me the Recaros, NO spectrum lighting, optional PDR, the wheels and black accents make it a winner and raises the bar.

I have been cross-shopping with a Vette since the 6th Gen came out. I thought about placing an order a couple weeks ago and, for whatever reason in my gut, couldn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the 1LE is the reason why.

You really should. It's a fantastic way to see what your car can really do. Not to great for your brake and tire budget, but I think everyone should do it at least once if they have a performance car. It's a blast.

[enzia35]

Could do without the MRC. Would be cool if they offered the package on the i4T.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

With all the sound coming from the engine and exhaust, do we really need bose. Drove 2300 miles last season in my 15 C7 manual with NPP exhaust option, Radio is never on.

This is just my opinion, but Yes. I drive 12k miles per year and a lot of that is in traffic before and after work. Almost 1.5 hours per day in stop and go traffic. I would much rather have my windows up listening to a good stereo most of the time than hear my car idle along in traffic. If I only drove it 2,300 miles per year I probably wouldn't care much but my guess is that most people will probably be daily driving their 1LE.

[detltu]

Originally Posted by infinitiboy92

If only I could learn to drive a manual transmission.

You're not to far from me. Send me a PM if you want to learn. I can hook you up. It's really not that hard. Just takes some practice.