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10aSSee D · 02-12-2014, 06:19 PM

Are you going stock cubes or stroker?

fldrummer · 02-12-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

Are you going stock cubes or stroker?

Stock cubes. 'Not looking for a ton more power or to set records, plus it's not like I had budgeted for this ahead of time. I guess the bright side is I caught this before ordering my 9-inch, or else I'd be in way over my head.

fldrummer · 04-22-2014, 09:28 PM

So I thought I would give a little update. It took the engine builder a bit longer than I had planned, but we finally got the forged engine block back this past week. 'Went with Callies H-beam rods and coated JE pistons with valve reliefs. I decided to have the compression lowered a little (was going for 9.5:1 but it came out to 9.8:1, according to the engine builder, which is fine).

The engine is back in the car with, of course, a new cam with much larger split for the blower (223/244) and similar lift and same 114 LSA as my old cam, which is just 1 more degree of overlap than my old cam, but not too radical. At first, I was just going to go down one pulley size on the Maggie (to a 3.6), but with the compression lowered, I was concerned I might not meet my power goals. Instead of going with a 3.4, I've decided to keep the 3.8 for now and do an OD rear to limit belt slip. I figure this will put me in the 8 psi range (I know I could go a lot higher but don't want to upgrade the fuel system again right now). This same cam and Maggie setup made around 630rwhp on a Callaway Corvette at about the same boost level. We're planning on between 600-620 in my case, which would be perfect for me.

I also have a Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch that just got installed yesterday, so at least I'll be able to have part of my drivetrain upgraded, though not a full 9-inch, as originally planned. That will just have to wait 'til next year, along with fatter, stickier rubber (another reason it's pointless to add more power right now; LOL).. The bright side is I was finally able to find a 2nd car/"beater" for a good price from someone I know so I can drive the Camaro and buy tires for it less often.

Anyway, time for some pics...

fldrummer · 04-22-2014, 09:43 PM

The "beater" (2000 Cadillac Deville--well-maintained; flawless paint and interior for a car its age; needs only minor work). 'Definitely no gas-sipper, but takes Regular gas and still gets at least 5 more MPGs around town than my Camaro, LOL. 'Plenty of room for hauling my drum kit to gigs too (gonna have to cover those light-colored seats though to keep the dirt and grime off). Let the AARP jokes begin, haha (FTR, I'm only 37)...

MikeLA2011ss · 04-22-2014, 10:22 PM

20/50 valvoline vr1! Stuff is beast

Unreal · 04-22-2014, 10:50 PM

A little late but I would have gone 10-10.5:1 compression. Maggies love compression and you will run out of blower before motor.

fldrummer · 04-23-2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

A little late but I would have gone 10-10.5:1 compression. Maggies love compression and you will run out of blower before motor.

Yeah, I'm sure stock compression would have been fine. 'Just thinking long-term, in case plans change, down the road (doubtful, but you never know!).

10aSSee D · 04-23-2014, 08:33 AM

Looks good! When are you thinking it will be tuned and dynoed?

fldrummer · 04-23-2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

Looks good! When are you thinking it will be tuned and dynoed?

Hard to say, but probably next week. 'Depends on how fast the break-in process works. We will run 2 rounds of BR-30 break-in oil, before switching to LS-30.

10aSSee D · 04-23-2014, 07:19 PM

Cool! I have thought about using the LS30 oil but ADM suggested 15w50 for mine.

fldrummer · 04-23-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

Cool! I have thought about using the LS30 oil but ADM suggested 15w50 for mine.

'Depends on the motor. I would go with what your shop recommends (doubt many would second-guess a well-respected shop like ADM

).

10aSSee D · 04-23-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fldrummer

'Depends on the motor. I would go with what your shop recommends (doubt many would second-guess a well-respected shop like ADM

).

I agree but you might be surprised when it comes down to what oil people are running.

fldrummer · 04-28-2014, 08:44 PM

First start-up! (A slightly longer version is available on Lashway Motorsports' Facebook page.)...

http://"http://instagram-ps.5thvilla...865_184608351/

spd2612 · 04-29-2014, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fldrummer

First start-up! (A slightly longer version is available on Lashway Motorsports' Facebook page.)...

http://instagram-ps.5thvillage.com/v...865_184608351/

<iframe width="500px" height="560px" src="http://www.5thvillage.me/v/708869710253678865_184608351/embed/" frameborder="0"></iframe>

Nice should be a fun ride with built in strength now Congrats

02-12-2014, 06:19 PM	#29
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Are you going stock cubes or stroker? __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

04-22-2014, 09:28 PM	#31
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,352	So I thought I would give a little update. It took the engine builder a bit longer than I had planned, but we finally got the forged engine block back this past week. 'Went with Callies H-beam rods and coated JE pistons with valve reliefs. I decided to have the compression lowered a little (was going for 9.5:1 but it came out to 9.8:1, according to the engine builder, which is fine). The engine is back in the car with, of course, a new cam with much larger split for the blower (223/244) and similar lift and same 114 LSA as my old cam, which is just 1 more degree of overlap than my old cam, but not too radical. At first, I was just going to go down one pulley size on the Maggie (to a 3.6), but with the compression lowered, I was concerned I might not meet my power goals. Instead of going with a 3.4, I've decided to keep the 3.8 for now and do an OD rear to limit belt slip. I figure this will put me in the 8 psi range (I know I could go a lot higher but don't want to upgrade the fuel system again right now). This same cam and Maggie setup made around 630rwhp on a Callaway Corvette at about the same boost level. We're planning on between 600-620 in my case, which would be perfect for me. I also have a Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch that just got installed yesterday, so at least I'll be able to have part of my drivetrain upgraded, though not a full 9-inch, as originally planned. That will just have to wait 'til next year, along with fatter, stickier rubber (another reason it's pointless to add more power right now; LOL).. The bright side is I was finally able to find a 2nd car/"beater" for a good price from someone I know so I can drive the Camaro and buy tires for it less often. Anyway, time for some pics... Attached Images __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Forged 416 LS3, Maggie TVS 2300 SC (~11 psi), custom cam (232/247, .630/.630, 118 LSA), 90-lb. injectors, ZL1 fuel pump & ADM controller, Alky Control meth kit, Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. Built & tuned by Kraftworks. 755 rwhp/708 rwtq Last edited by fldrummer; 04-22-2014 at 09:53 PM.

04-22-2014, 09:43 PM	#32
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,352	The "beater" (2000 Cadillac Deville--well-maintained; flawless paint and interior for a car its age; needs only minor work). 'Definitely no gas-sipper, but takes Regular gas and still gets at least 5 more MPGs around town than my Camaro, LOL. 'Plenty of room for hauling my drum kit to gigs too (gonna have to cover those light-colored seats though to keep the dirt and grime off). Let the AARP jokes begin, haha (FTR, I'm only 37)... Attached Images __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Forged 416 LS3, Maggie TVS 2300 SC (~11 psi), custom cam (232/247, .630/.630, 118 LSA), 90-lb. injectors, ZL1 fuel pump & ADM controller, Alky Control meth kit, Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. Built & tuned by Kraftworks. 755 rwhp/708 rwtq

04-22-2014, 10:50 PM	#34
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	A little late but I would have gone 10-10.5:1 compression. Maggies love compression and you will run out of blower before motor. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

04-23-2014, 08:33 AM	#36
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Looks good! When are you thinking it will be tuned and dynoed? __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

04-22-2014, 10:22 PM	#33
MikeLA2011ss Drives: 2011 TT 416ci Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette la Posts: 130 View My Garage	20/50 valvoline vr1! Stuff is beast

04-23-2014, 07:19 PM	#38
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Cool! I have thought about using the LS30 oil but ADM suggested 15w50 for mine. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

04-28-2014, 08:44 PM	#41
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,352	First start-up! (A slightly longer version is available on Lashway Motorsports' Facebook page.)... http://"http://instagram-ps.5thvilla...865_184608351/ __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Forged 416 LS3, Maggie TVS 2300 SC (~11 psi), custom cam (232/247, .630/.630, 118 LSA), 90-lb. injectors, ZL1 fuel pump & ADM controller, Alky Control meth kit, Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. Built & tuned by Kraftworks. 755 rwhp/708 rwtq Last edited by fldrummer; 05-13-2014 at 09:02 PM.