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Maurdib · 04-20-2010, 12:14 PM

Everytime I here of something cool to do to get some better performance I keep getting hit by California only laws. We can we actually do in this state to upgrade our cars?

brandotron · 04-20-2010, 12:17 PM

Cams, heads, shorty headers, catback exhaust, bore/stroke, supercharger...there's a lot we can do.

t_long927 · 04-20-2010, 12:31 PM

I have been in the automotive industry all of my life. Even worked at a smog station. You can really do anything you want. The state does require a C.A.R.B. EO # ( executive number ) stating that the B.A.R. has inspected the device and it will not effect the emisions output of that vehicle/motor. Now the difference in price between a "CARB" legal and illegal product is huge. For instance say you want a maggie and the whole kit is 5 grand. Well it may be as much as 7-8 grand for a legal maggie. Stick with you Bigger brands like edlebrock, Crank, etc. If you have anymore questions you can go on the BAR.ca.gov website and check out if a part is legal on your car or not. Also remember you do not have to smog your car for another 4-5 years. So whatever you do will not be seen until that smog is needed. OR a dick cop pops your hood. But they do not always know what to look for. Hell for all they know that beautiful chrom Maggie was stock on a 2010 Camaro SS

But rest asure I have been in your shoes and I do think some of these "LAWS" are a bit on the BS side.- Long Live the CAMARO

SDCamaro10 · 04-20-2010, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_long927

I have been in the automotive industry all of my life. Even worked at a smog station. You can really do anything you want. The state does require a C.A.R.B. EO # ( executive number ) stating that the B.A.R. has inspected the device and it will not effect the emisions output of that vehicle/motor. Now the difference in price between a "CARB" legal and illegal product is huge. For instance say you want a maggie and the whole kit is 5 grand. Well it may be as much as 7-8 grand for a legal maggie. Stick with you Bigger brands like edlebrock, Crank, etc. If you have anymore questions you can go on the BAR.ca.gov website and check out if a part is legal on your car or not. Also remember you do not have to smog your car for another 4-5 years. So whatever you do will not be seen until that smog is needed. OR a dick cop pops your hood. But they do not always know what to look for. Hell for all they know that beautiful chrom Maggie was stock on a 2010 Camaro SS

But rest asure I have been in your shoes and I do think some of these "LAWS" are a bit on the BS side.- Long Live the CAMARO

Correct. there are a ton of things we can do, but be damn sure you have the CARB numbers. Without them, your car can be impounded and you can be ticketed.

Michael_Js · 04-20-2010, 01:01 PM

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

motorhead · 04-20-2010, 01:09 PM

I heard that they even tax farmers for cows farting. Is that true?

Maurdib · 04-20-2010, 01:11 PM

Thanks my Cali brotheren, I was getting worried, and was just going to consetrate on making it look fast vs actually being fast

ffrcobra_65 · 04-20-2010, 04:06 PM

You live in KALIFORNIA. Enjoy the year round driving season, stop complaining and just keep paying your taxes. Where do you think you are, Wisconsin?

You are lucky you don't get a ticket for posting such stuff.

H3LLJumper · 04-21-2010, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

You live in KALIFORNIA. Enjoy the year round driving season, stop complaining and just keep paying your taxes. Where do you think you are, Wisconsin?

You are lucky you don't get a ticket for posting such stuff.

fail

SDCamaro10 · 04-21-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

You live in KALIFORNIA. Enjoy the year round driving season, stop complaining and just keep paying your taxes. Where do you think you are, Wisconsin?

You are lucky you don't get a ticket for posting such stuff.

I fail to understand the relevance?

Michael_Js · 04-21-2010, 10:51 AM

Does anyone know if the ADM Street CAI is CARB approved? I sent a PM to Andy yesterday and also searched the ARB database (not there). No sticker on it either - that I am aware of ;(

Oh, and living in CA doesn't waive the right to mods...other than CARB - meaning, too bad because it's beautiful most of the time here. And YOU even are in CA!! What's up with that??

brandotron · 04-21-2010, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

You live in KALIFORNIA. Enjoy the year round driving season, stop complaining and just keep paying your taxes. Where do you think you are, Wisconsin?

You are lucky you don't get a ticket for posting such stuff.

loopback · 04-21-2010, 03:16 PM

What about a list of whats the most we could do for both Legal AND keep the warranty?
Shorties, CatBack...

Maurdib · 04-21-2010, 03:37 PM

I was thinking intially of CAI, LT Headers(OUT), Highflow Cat(Most likely OUT), and a Catback. With a tune I figured I'd be good

04-20-2010, 12:14 PM	#1
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	California, What can we do that's actually legal Everytime I here of something cool to do to get some better performance I keep getting hit by California only laws. We can we actually do in this state to upgrade our cars? __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

04-20-2010, 12:17 PM	#2
brandotron I am the internets. Drives: dangerously Join Date: May 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 12,571 View My Garage	Cams, heads, shorty headers, catback exhaust, bore/stroke, supercharger...there's a lot we can do. __________________

04-20-2010, 12:31 PM	#3
t_long927 Bakersfield Camaro Club Drives: 1984 Camaro Berlinetta Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 168 View My Garage	I have been in the automotive industry all of my life. Even worked at a smog station. You can really do anything you want. The state does require a C.A.R.B. EO # ( executive number ) stating that the B.A.R. has inspected the device and it will not effect the emisions output of that vehicle/motor. Now the difference in price between a "CARB" legal and illegal product is huge. For instance say you want a maggie and the whole kit is 5 grand. Well it may be as much as 7-8 grand for a legal maggie. Stick with you Bigger brands like edlebrock, Crank, etc. If you have anymore questions you can go on the BAR.ca.gov website and check out if a part is legal on your car or not. Also remember you do not have to smog your car for another 4-5 years. So whatever you do will not be seen until that smog is needed. OR a dick cop pops your hood. But they do not always know what to look for. Hell for all they know that beautiful chrom Maggie was stock on a 2010 Camaro SS But rest asure I have been in your shoes and I do think some of these "LAWS" are a bit on the BS side.- Long Live the CAMARO __________________ Trevor Long From Bako

04-20-2010, 01:01 PM	#5
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

04-20-2010, 01:11 PM	#7
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Thanks my Cali brotheren, I was getting worried, and was just going to consetrate on making it look fast vs actually being fast __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

04-20-2010, 01:09 PM	#6
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	I heard that they even tax farmers for cows farting. Is that true?

04-20-2010, 04:06 PM	#8
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	You live in KALIFORNIA. Enjoy the year round driving season, stop complaining and just keep paying your taxes. Where do you think you are, Wisconsin? You are lucky you don't get a ticket for posting such stuff.

04-21-2010, 10:51 AM	#11
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	Does anyone know if the ADM Street CAI is CARB approved? I sent a PM to Andy yesterday and also searched the ARB database (not there). No sticker on it either - that I am aware of ;( Oh, and living in CA doesn't waive the right to mods...other than CARB - meaning, too bad because it's beautiful most of the time here. And YOU even are in CA!! What's up with that?? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

04-21-2010, 03:16 PM	#13
loopback SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Black 1SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Marcos CA Posts: 110	What about a list of whats the most we could do for both Legal AND keep the warranty? Shorties, CatBack...

04-21-2010, 03:37 PM	#14
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	I was thinking intially of CAI, LT Headers(OUT), Highflow Cat(Most likely OUT), and a Catback. With a tune I figured I'd be good __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

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