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Kept-a-rollin · 11-17-2009, 08:59 PM

Answer: if it's an ABM 2LT RS - ABSOLUTELY YES!

Been a helluva past week for me, but happy ending. Sorry for the long story - but I gotta tell it ...

My ABM 2LT RS order was not looking good as of last Tue., the 10th, stuck at 1100. LT RS constraint was killing me, ABM phaseout as of TPW 11/30 was looming large. I had my heart set on ABM and my exact options. I didn't have another color that was even a close second to ABM.

My dealer said 11/10 was pretty much my drop dead date. I had opened a case file w/ GM customer service to plead my case. I messaged the "Tell Fritz" forum a couple of times and pleaded my case w/ someone from the GM executive office who had responded. As of 11/9, nothing positive was happening. People were getting pissed at me because I was pushing hard to try to make something happen. I was telling anyone who would listen that this situation was poor customer service. I threatened to buy a Mustang and never purchase a GM vehicle again. When I first ordered, I figured my chances were 50-50 I'd make it. Last Tue., I figured my chances were down to about 2%.

Then there was divine intervention. On a whim, I searched the GM site Mon. night 11/9 and an ABM 2LT RS A6/Grey/ Sunroof - my exact freakin' order except the spare tire was included - popped up at a dealership 11 miles from my house! Was this a cruel tease - some kind of mistake? I direct-searched the local dealer inventory - no hit! Why was that - how come GM said the dealer had it but the dealer themselves were not listing it? Was it already sold? I emailed the internet sales guy (it was 2am) - didn't sleep well that night.

On Tue. 11/10, found out the car indeed was at the lot! They just got it off the truck the day before. Yes, God had dropped my car 11 miles from my house at a different dealer than I had ordered from. Got the status updates from my original dealer - no movement on my order - still stuck at 1100. Went down to Durand Chevrolet Tue. night after work, negotiated a comparable deal to what I had ordered, and put the deposit down that night. What a sigh of relief!

Had planned to put my written notice to cancel my order in the mail on Wed. 11/11, but it was Veterans Day - no mail. I didn't work that day. Since my order was stuck at 1100, figured there'd be no harm in waiting a day to mail it then call the dealer.

So I get into work on Thu. 11/12 and what do I see - an email from my original dealer saying he had great news - my order was being picked up - moved to status 2500! Wouldn't you know it - now I feel conflicted because the original dealer had been very good and I felt bad about not giving them my business.

I talked to both dealers and to their credit, they were both very good about it - I had my choice on which way to go. I figured the Camaro "in hand" - on the lot - was the sure thing. There was still some risk with the order - who knows what might go wrong. Even though the dealer said I had a TPW of 12/7 - that GM was trying to honor all customer orders for ABMs (which is what I had been pleading for) - what if there were more delays? What if it wasn't built prior to the holiday shutdown?

So I picked up my miracle car on Friday night and am enjoying every minute of it. According to spastic squirrel, this is the only ABM 2LT RS A6/Grey/ Sunroof delivered to a MA dealer - period. How lucky was that? I suppose my original order will be the second one delivered in MA. So if you are around the New England area and are looking for an ABM 2LT, call Aaron Markella at Best Chevrolet in Hingham, MA at 781-749-1950 and tell him Jim said to give you a good deal.

Love this car! And all is forgiven with GM. And everyone lived happily ever after (except the people who make Mustangs).

OUR72GTO · 11-17-2009, 09:11 PM

Good for you!

ELM2010 · 11-17-2009, 09:15 PM

AWESOME!

bluec5 · 11-17-2009, 09:26 PM

I think you made the right choice. My situation was very simialr. I had an IOM 2LT/RS on order since day one. I tried of waiting for my car and found exactly what I had ordered at a dealer in Indiana. Worked a deal for a little below retail and haven't looked back since. Great car!

wer2foxs · 11-17-2009, 09:34 PM

I had the very same problem with my RY LT1/RS package that I ordered in Indiana and it was not going to make the dead line before the constraint. I thought the GM gods did the same thing by delivering a TF edition to my dealer that was 5 miles away. They made it worse by NOT honoring the family GM discount to me because it was a special edition. Them @#$ holes! That was so wrong! Fortunately I found my baby at Sparta Chevrolet in Michigan through this web site. Anna Bearinger gave me a fantastic trade for my Pontiac GrandPrix and got my RY LT1/RS at MSRP less the GM discount. They were fantastic and well worth the trip! She goes by Little_Bank_ Robber on this site.

AnnaBear@SpartaChevy · 11-18-2009, 08:41 AM

Congrats on finding the car of your dreams! It is a beauty!

And Thanks, wer2foxs...I appreciate the kind words.

Sevn86 · 11-18-2009, 08:54 AM

Congrats on ur ABM camaro!!! Picked mine up Thursday...I get so many looks and everyone says great things about the color...some one yesterday said is that blue like candy paint and I was like no but it sure looks like it when it's bright and sunny outside...

mjlash22 · 11-19-2009, 10:10 AM

Congrats! Luckily you had some descent dealers!

bluec5 · 11-19-2009, 09:46 PM

I agree. I was very pleased with the guys at Sam Pierce Chevrolet. My local dealer just closed his doors in the last couple of weeks and he never did receive the car I had originally orderd in October of 2008.
The right dealer makes a world of difference.

11-17-2009, 08:59 PM	#1
Kept-a-rollin Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT RS ABM/Grey/A6/Sunr Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West Boylston, MA Posts: 57 View My Garage	Is a Camaro in Hand (on the lot) Worth 2 in the Bush (on order)? Answer: if it's an ABM 2LT RS - ABSOLUTELY YES! Been a helluva past week for me, but happy ending. Sorry for the long story - but I gotta tell it ... My ABM 2LT RS order was not looking good as of last Tue., the 10th, stuck at 1100. LT RS constraint was killing me, ABM phaseout as of TPW 11/30 was looming large. I had my heart set on ABM and my exact options. I didn't have another color that was even a close second to ABM. My dealer said 11/10 was pretty much my drop dead date. I had opened a case file w/ GM customer service to plead my case. I messaged the "Tell Fritz" forum a couple of times and pleaded my case w/ someone from the GM executive office who had responded. As of 11/9, nothing positive was happening. People were getting pissed at me because I was pushing hard to try to make something happen. I was telling anyone who would listen that this situation was poor customer service. I threatened to buy a Mustang and never purchase a GM vehicle again. When I first ordered, I figured my chances were 50-50 I'd make it. Last Tue., I figured my chances were down to about 2%. Then there was divine intervention. On a whim, I searched the GM site Mon. night 11/9 and an ABM 2LT RS A6/Grey/ Sunroof - my exact freakin' order except the spare tire was included - popped up at a dealership 11 miles from my house! Was this a cruel tease - some kind of mistake? I direct-searched the local dealer inventory - no hit! Why was that - how come GM said the dealer had it but the dealer themselves were not listing it? Was it already sold? I emailed the internet sales guy (it was 2am) - didn't sleep well that night. On Tue. 11/10, found out the car indeed was at the lot! They just got it off the truck the day before. Yes, God had dropped my car 11 miles from my house at a different dealer than I had ordered from. Got the status updates from my original dealer - no movement on my order - still stuck at 1100. Went down to Durand Chevrolet Tue. night after work, negotiated a comparable deal to what I had ordered, and put the deposit down that night. What a sigh of relief! Had planned to put my written notice to cancel my order in the mail on Wed. 11/11, but it was Veterans Day - no mail. I didn't work that day. Since my order was stuck at 1100, figured there'd be no harm in waiting a day to mail it then call the dealer. So I get into work on Thu. 11/12 and what do I see - an email from my original dealer saying he had great news - my order was being picked up - moved to status 2500! Wouldn't you know it - now I feel conflicted because the original dealer had been very good and I felt bad about not giving them my business. I talked to both dealers and to their credit, they were both very good about it - I had my choice on which way to go. I figured the Camaro "in hand" - on the lot - was the sure thing. There was still some risk with the order - who knows what might go wrong. Even though the dealer said I had a TPW of 12/7 - that GM was trying to honor all customer orders for ABMs (which is what I had been pleading for) - what if there were more delays? What if it wasn't built prior to the holiday shutdown? So I picked up my miracle car on Friday night and am enjoying every minute of it. According to spastic squirrel, this is the only ABM 2LT RS A6/Grey/ Sunroof delivered to a MA dealer - period. How lucky was that? I suppose my original order will be the second one delivered in MA. So if you are around the New England area and are looking for an ABM 2LT, call Aaron Markella at Best Chevrolet in Hingham, MA at 781-749-1950 and tell him Jim said to give you a good deal. Love this car! And all is forgiven with GM. And everyone lived happily ever after (except the people who make Mustangs). Attached Images __________________ Order No. NQRF51 2LT RS ABM/ Gray Int/ A6/ Sunroof 1100 - preliminary order accepted 10-30-09 Best Chevrolet, Hingham, MA XXXX- abandoned order; bought same car at Durand Chevrolet 11-10-09 Woohoo!!! 2G1FC1EVXA9159071 2500 - order preferenced 11-11-09 3000 - order accepted by production control 11-18-09 TPW 12-14-09 3300 - order scheduled for production 12-9-09 3400 - order broadcast 12-15-09 3800 - order produced 12-18-09 My orig order actually did get built! 2G1FC1EVXA9179031

11-17-2009, 09:11 PM	#2
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	Good for you! __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

11-19-2009, 10:10 AM	#8
mjlash22 Drives: 2007 Ford Fusion SE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,440	Congrats! Luckily you had some descent dealers! __________________ Ordered: 2LT/RS CGM, A6 1100 = Preliminary Order 10/1/09 2000 = Accepted By GM 12/31/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control 1/7/10 (TPW: 2/1/10) 3400 = Broadcast 1/23/10 3800 = Produced 2/2/10 (2G1FC1EV6A9189068) 4150 = Invoiced 2/5/10 4200 = Shipped 5000 = Delivered To Dealer 6000 = Delivered To Customer

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