01-23-2014, 09:51 PM | #1 |
Thinking about these audio upgrades, let me know your thoughts
Thinking about getting these for my 2010 Camaro. I have the BA system, my right door speaker is blown so using this opportunity to upgrade all my audio in the car. I just want to make sure that what I'm doing is smart and will give me great sound.
- Replacing side doors and tweeters with JL C5-650 component speakers - Replacing factory amp with JL XD400/4 to power the JL component speakers (leaving rear BA speakers in, please let me know if this is a good idea and if I will run into any problems) - Adding in 1 single JL 10w7 sub in a JL spec ported sub box - Powering sub with JL 500/1V2 That's all I've got so far. I feel that the front speakers are going to be heard more so going all out on them and leaving the rear stock. I want the front speakers to sound crystal clear with little to barely any bass and have all the bass come from the sub. Is this a good/smart setup? Just want to make sure this is a good way to go before I pull the trigger and order all these items.
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01-23-2014, 10:32 PM | #2 |
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You might to get one of these from ********. It a wiring adapter so you do not ned to cut any of your Camaro wiring. You just unplug the wiring connector form the car and plug in the adapter. then just plug in the rca plugs and just connect the 8 wire for your speakers.
http://********.com/product_info.php...roducts_id=338 You could get this mounting board so you can use the space where the ba amp is at. http://********.com/product_info.php...roducts_id=316 I have the board and JL XD400/4 amp installed that way.
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It sounds like you're on the right track but if you go to any audio convention or get an audio guy in your car you'll probably get criticized. Personally i'd upgrade all the speakers even the rear. If you get good enough tweeters they're sound awesome and you'll have no need for a pair of speakers that are a comp set (with a tweeter in the speaker) You'll have so much high freq notes in there it might sound annoying.
Upgrade your front or rear speakers to a pair that are built for midrange.. You don't want all high note in the car and low note from the sub then you're missing the most important part which is the midrange. Low - Subwoofer Mid - Mid range speakers High - Tweeters/comp set of speakers I can't really put it into words... http://www.ebay.com/gds/5-Things-to-...7631327/g.html Read that link, it goes over mid, high, and low. Now as far as the rear speakers go, I really would replace them, It's a good idea.. I know it's a bit of a hassle but it's worth it, although you really don't hear them that much, they do play a key role in the process. |
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I was under the impression that the C5-650's would provide highs and mids, not just highs. I thought the component speaker provided mids and the separate tweeter on the C5 provided the highs. So I may have to rethink this. You really think replacing the rears will make that much of a difference? What would you suggest that would give me a good bit of highs and mids? Would the stock BA rear speakers be okay for mids for the time being? I don't plan on taking my car to any audio conventions or anything like that, this is really just for my personal use. I just want high quality audio running through my car. But it looks like I will be shelling out a good amount of money so I want to make sure it sounds good for the price. Quote:
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01-24-2014, 06:43 AM | #6 |
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There's nothing wrong with leaving stock speakers back there for rear fill purposes with primary sound coming from the nice replacements you have chosen, however, pay attention to the ohm load of the stockers vs your aftermarket choice. I would think you could turn the gains off on the rears and bump the gain a hair...maybe 1/8th-1/4 for the fronts. I think you have a good plan. You should also pick a sub.
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01-24-2014, 10:55 AM | #7 |
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I got the c5-650's in front and Jl C2350 in the back (convertible) and a 1200.4 crunch amp...I was not happy with the sound of the JL speakers, they were very high pitch and clear but no mid range or bass at all...I replaced the fornts with Pioneer 500w and sound much better...added to more drivers to the back and 2 3.5s to the foot well...now trying to figure out which sub/amp to go with in the stock spot (dont want a w7 because I dont want to deal with the rattling, prefer just a little bass that sounds clean with the highs...any suggestions?
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01-24-2014, 03:19 PM | #9 | |
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Now i'm not saing your speakers are bad because believe me they're not. But they're a component set, meaning you're going to get some highs some mids and some lows. I mean personally if you get a good set of tweeters to take all the highs for you then you can get some nice mid range speakers. Basically the numbers are what you're looking for. It kind of makes sense though, Db @ 1 watt/1meter, That's the line you're looking for for how loud it's going to be based on the wattage and sensitivity of the speaker. FZ is the frequency the speaker will pick up the mid range FZ looks like it's about 300-5000hz you're JL pick up upto 25k hz, that's way over a midrange speaker. This is not a professional opinion. |
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01-24-2014, 03:28 PM | #11 | |
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Although, if I was having issues with too many highs and not enough mids, couldn't I just adjust the highs to be less and up the mids on my amp or head unit? Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I'm still learning lol
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Here are some pics...I originally ordered the JL c2650's for the front and JL c2350's for the back...I wasnt happy with the overall sound. So I added 1 driver to each side in the back and added Pioneer 6.5 speakers to the back (had to cut metal to fit) and moved the 3.5's to the footwells (had to cut to fit)....sounds great now. JL 10w7 and JL hd750.1 coming next week, should complete the setup
Also put up a pic of the Scosche kit in Carbon Fiber (matching the hood)...looks great if anyone is thinking about getting the CF scosche
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I'm still going to go with the C5 I think. If I end up not liking them (which is now seeming to be much more likely), then I will just put them in my other car and get something else for the camaro. I appreciate everyone's input. It looks like the sub amp and sub are going to be a shoe in to sound good, I'll just have to decide on the C5's, I'll never really know until I put them in my car. Scheduled an appointment at my local reputable profession installer for next friday.
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