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BullF-16 · 06-23-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

Hey man did you just do a new build on you car?

Yep, swapped out the D1SC (too small for the cubes) and went custom twin turbos PT6766 ball bearing units. Tuned all the way up to 25 psi but only running 15 psi on the boost controller for now. Its pretty out of control above about 12psi. Still fine tuning the boost controller.

What's nice is that i can run anywhere from 4 psi all the way up to 25psi with the press of a couple buttons on the boost leash.

Mr. Nasty · 06-23-2014, 09:16 PM

OK sound like a good set up now. Am thinking of going turbo next year. But I want to see how much more I can get out of the whipple in good air with what I have done over the summer. Can't get much out of it with temp at 95+ here in north FL

BullF-16 · 06-23-2014, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

OK sound like a good set up now. Am thinking of going turbo next year. But I want to see how much more I can get out of the whipple in good air with what I have done over the summer. Can't get much out of it with temp at 95+ here in north FL

This was a big problem i had with the D1 at 14psi. It made 758whp and during the heat of the summer 100+ it just seemed flat.

Now with the twins set to 15ish (1053rwhp on the dyno at 15psi) it is still insanely fast and violent when the boost kicks in even at 100+ temps. I have the ramp rate dialed back quite a bit and its still pretty violent. i have noticed this huge intercooler is far more efficient than the one i ran with the D1. The inlets temps are 10-15 deg cooler than ambient when driving and when the boost sets in the temps plummet further due to the meth.

I cant imagine turning up the boost to 25.....but it's nice to know it's there if i ever feel the need! Just concerned with my RXT clutch and stock M6, so no sticky strip tires for me. Just the road course setup!

To the OP, looks like you have a tough decision to make. I say keep the SS and build the hell out of it! Good luck and have fun in the process

sscamaro · 06-24-2014, 02:08 PM

A S/C will cost you less than you'll lose on trade in.

Need4speed_motorsports · 06-24-2014, 02:34 PM

I would supercharge my SS, buying a ZL1 seems like the easy way out. Adding a S/C to an SS seems a lot cooler and you can make it a nice sleeper.

mrvenicess · 06-24-2014, 03:10 PM

Hey Mr.Nasty, when are you going to come down to BMP to have some fun? I came up to SGMP for Pony Wars, maybe come down for Modern Muscle shoot out. I'm hoping to be closer to your times by then. Cant get better than my 10.625 in this heat but I keep trying! Thing I love about my ZL1 is that I'm driving it up to Canada next week from Florida, driving home, hitting the Tail of the Dragon on the way back then doing Runday Sunday at the drag strip two days later!

Mr. Nasty · 06-24-2014, 04:33 PM

Hey sound like a fun trip. Yeah I was in Palm Beach back in Nov of last year. TCC5 put on a good event at the PBIR track had a blast. As far as pony wars went for me it sucked it was like I was there for T&T had no class to run in. That day was running high 10.30 their was no 10sec class they stop at 11s and the fast 8 all but one car was running 9s.

MODERN MUSCLE SHOOT OUT If the timing right am game let me know when and where.

mrvenicess · 06-24-2014, 07:44 PM

You and me both got shut out at Pony Wars! I think it is Sept 27 for modern muscle car shoot out

Mr. Nasty · 06-24-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrvenicess

You and me both got shut out at Pony Wars! I think it is Sept 27 for modern muscle car shoot out

Where is BMP? And let me know if it the 27th.

jrhagen · 06-24-2014, 08:34 PM

Get a room.

t!mbo · 06-24-2014, 09:26 PM

Let me tell you my thought process. When I bought my SS new, didn't even know of a ZL1 otherwise I probably would have waited, but I didn't...

I was at the point where I thought exactly what you thought. Trade or mod the SS.
When I would have traded mine, I probably would have gotten 30k for my SS and a ZL1 would be at least 55k at the time, a 25k difference.

For that amount you can change a lot on your SS and you can have a lot fun doing it, at least I did. You can see what I have done to mine and I am at less than 15k. Mine now has more Hp than a stock ZL1, but for sure mine doesn't handle like a ZL1, but if I want that, there is money left to do it. But mine is a fun daily driver not a race car, therefore I don't need that.
If you want everything done and immediately the full package, trade in. If you want some fun along the way, mod the SS. It really comes down to what you want to get and what you want to spend...

mrvenicess · 06-25-2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

Where is BMP? And let me know if it the 27th.

Bradenton Motorsports Park. It is Sept 27th. We usually get a whole bunch of Camaros, Mustangs, Challengers and CTSvs. www.bradentonmotorsports.com for more info.

EDFHOBBIES · 06-25-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PJS45TH

Pros and cons? I want more power but sure if its worth going down the aftermarket road vs trading in the SS. What was your decision process?

What's the price difference? $

If we are only talking about supercharging and not the magnetic ride suspension, different rims, and exterior pieces..

I can tell it cost about 7,000 for the kit and 1000.00 for install plus 400 to 500 for a tune..

Later on you will need the Zl1 pump, and injectors.. so I would cover my but have that done initially so when you want to add boost or other updrades your not out 800.00 for injectors or pump price and labor.

So work a deal to get bigger injectors now so u don't waste money with 56 or 52 the kit comes with.. the injectors are pretty close in price so might as well think ahead and not pay double.. just ask for the bigger injectors now

06-23-2014, 09:16 PM	#44
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	OK sound like a good set up now. Am thinking of going turbo next year. But I want to see how much more I can get out of the whipple in good air with what I have done over the summer. Can't get much out of it with temp at 95+ here in north FL __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

06-24-2014, 02:08 PM	#46
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,195 View My Garage	A S/C will cost you less than you'll lose on trade in. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.

06-24-2014, 04:33 PM	#49
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Hey sound like a fun trip. Yeah I was in Palm Beach back in Nov of last year. TCC5 put on a good event at the PBIR track had a blast. As far as pony wars went for me it sucked it was like I was there for T&T had no class to run in. That day was running high 10.30 their was no 10sec class they stop at 11s and the fast 8 all but one car was running 9s. MODERN MUSCLE SHOOT OUT If the timing right am game let me know when and where. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

06-24-2014, 09:26 PM	#53
t!mbo Drives: 45th 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 315	Let me tell you my thought process. When I bought my SS new, didn't even know of a ZL1 otherwise I probably would have waited, but I didn't... I was at the point where I thought exactly what you thought. Trade or mod the SS. When I would have traded mine, I probably would have gotten 30k for my SS and a ZL1 would be at least 55k at the time, a 25k difference. For that amount you can change a lot on your SS and you can have a lot fun doing it, at least I did. You can see what I have done to mine and I am at less than 15k. Mine now has more Hp than a stock ZL1, but for sure mine doesn't handle like a ZL1, but if I want that, there is money left to do it. But mine is a fun daily driver not a race car, therefore I don't need that. If you want everything done and immediately the full package, trade in. If you want some fun along the way, mod the SS. It really comes down to what you want to get and what you want to spend... __________________

06-24-2014, 02:34 PM	#47
Need4speed_motorsports Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 4,656 View My Garage	I would supercharge my SS, buying a ZL1 seems like the easy way out. Adding a S/C to an SS seems a lot cooler and you can make it a nice sleeper.

06-24-2014, 03:10 PM	#48
mrvenicess Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 auto Join Date: May 2010 Location: Venice Fl Posts: 1,443 View My Garage	Hey Mr.Nasty, when are you going to come down to BMP to have some fun? I came up to SGMP for Pony Wars, maybe come down for Modern Muscle shoot out. I'm hoping to be closer to your times by then. Cant get better than my 10.625 in this heat but I keep trying! Thing I love about my ZL1 is that I'm driving it up to Canada next week from Florida, driving home, hitting the Tail of the Dragon on the way back then doing Runday Sunday at the drag strip two days later!

06-24-2014, 07:44 PM	#50
mrvenicess Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 auto Join Date: May 2010 Location: Venice Fl Posts: 1,443 View My Garage	You and me both got shut out at Pony Wars! I think it is Sept 27 for modern muscle car shoot out

06-24-2014, 08:34 PM	#52
jrhagen Banned Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 2,701	Get a room.