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MDV6er · 03-28-2013, 10:51 AM

I don't know if it's in my head, but I feel like my car is getting more sluggish over the past few days.

Nutbutt · 03-28-2013, 10:58 AM

You would see some codes being thrown if it really is the timing chain.

MDV6er · 03-28-2013, 11:11 AM

Guess I should go get my cel checked.. been riding around no tune for awhile

PieNsky · 03-28-2013, 04:04 PM

Loss of power. Codes come later.

PieNsky · 03-28-2013, 04:22 PM

I noticed that with my cruise control on, my Camaro was down shifting on hills that it had not done previously. Not very long afterwards, I had a right bank code. I changed my chains myself.

MDV6er · 03-28-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PieNsky

I noticed that with my cruise control on, my Camaro was down shifting on hills that it had not done previously. Not very long afterwards, I had a right bank code. I changed my chains myself.

How difficult was that?

SC2150 · 03-28-2013, 07:17 PM

I dont see a catchcan in your mods....remove the plenum cover from the IM and look into the intake ports with a boroscope to see your intake valves and how cked up they are.

If you dont have a boroscope take the IM off and you can see directly into the port.

Depending on the miles on the engine, and if it was run with DEXOS blend (chain will wear out nearly twice as fast than with a full syn) you may be getting close.

Here is a great site to understand oil issues today:

http://www.drivenracingoil.com/dro/why-synthetic

SNV · 03-29-2013, 10:54 AM

I would get a CEL off and on. After a few months it stayed on. I read the code myself with the Torque app.

PieNsky · 03-29-2013, 02:22 PM

I would let someone else else do it for $1200. A member on here said that is what he was quoted. SC2150 down in FLA will do it for less than that. I had read on here that it was a +$2000 from the dealer. That is why I did mine. I'm embarrassed to admit it, it took me two days to do it.

gahammerle · 03-29-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PieNsky

I would let someone else else do it for $1200. A member on here said that is what he was quoted. SC2150 down in FLA will do it for less than that. I had read on here that it was a +$2000 from the dealer. That is why I did mine. I'm embarrassed to admit it, it took me two days to do it.

Just think of it as you earned $1,000/day doing it yourself. I'll take that paycheck.

SC2150 · 03-29-2013, 05:06 PM

Doing it in 2 days by yourself is impressive! Good job.

We charge $999 to do the timing chains.

Also, if anyone is running the GM reccomended DEXOS blend oil and not full SYN, then these wear out in app 1/2 the time.

Look at this thread showing lifter wear with DEXOS blend vs regualr full syn, vs Joe Gibbs:

http://www.rmmengines.com/Joe_Gibbs_Oil.html

Tells a good story.

The reason DEXOS is reccomended has nothing to do with protecting the engine the best, it is all marketing toward the demographic that wants cheaper maintance...same as they say 87 octaine fuel even though it is far better with the 11.3:1 compression ratio to run 93, etc.

TooCool5 · 03-29-2013, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieNsky

I noticed that with my cruise control on, my Camaro was down shifting on hills that it had not done previously. Not very long afterwards, I had a right bank code. I changed my chains myself.

Hope not, mine just started downshifting on hills. Maybe I got a bad tank.

ChadG · 03-29-2013, 07:05 PM

Tracy I've been using straight Mobil 1 since I got my car . . . is there a readily available oil you would recommend over it? I've never seen the Joe Gibbs oil anywhere . . .

KMPrenger · 03-29-2013, 07:12 PM

This is the one thing I dread happening with this car. I don't drive much so I have no clue when it may happen, and the thought of losing power over time with no way to fix it without taking the plunge just sucks lol.

I'd rather my chains went out NOW and I could just have GM fix them.

Heres a new question....is there any way I can get this CEL to come on FASTER without running the dog crap out of my car and running crappy oil?? lol

03-28-2013, 10:51 AM	#1
MDV6er Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 279	how to tell if the timing chain is going I don't know if it's in my head, but I feel like my car is getting more sluggish over the past few days. __________________ 2011 Camaro LS M6 13.972 @ 103.44mph w/ 2.215 60'

03-28-2013, 10:58 AM	#2
Nutbutt Drives: 2011 RJT 2LT/RS Convertible Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 3,381 View My Garage	You would see some codes being thrown if it really is the timing chain. __________________ 1st IPF Supercharged 2011 2LT/RS RJT Convertible

03-28-2013, 11:11 AM	#3
MDV6er Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 279	Guess I should go get my cel checked.. been riding around no tune for awhile __________________ 2011 Camaro LS M6 13.972 @ 103.44mph w/ 2.215 60'

03-29-2013, 07:12 PM	#14
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	This is the one thing I dread happening with this car. I don't drive much so I have no clue when it may happen, and the thought of losing power over time with no way to fix it without taking the plunge just sucks lol. I'd rather my chains went out NOW and I could just have GM fix them. Heres a new question....is there any way I can get this CEL to come on FASTER without running the dog crap out of my car and running crappy oil?? lol __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

03-28-2013, 04:04 PM	#4
PieNsky Drives: Victory Red 1LS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,929 View My Garage	Loss of power. Codes come later.

03-28-2013, 04:22 PM	#5
PieNsky Drives: Victory Red 1LS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,929 View My Garage	I noticed that with my cruise control on, my Camaro was down shifting on hills that it had not done previously. Not very long afterwards, I had a right bank code. I changed my chains myself.

03-28-2013, 07:17 PM	#7
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	I dont see a catchcan in your mods....remove the plenum cover from the IM and look into the intake ports with a boroscope to see your intake valves and how cked up they are. If you dont have a boroscope take the IM off and you can see directly into the port. Depending on the miles on the engine, and if it was run with DEXOS blend (chain will wear out nearly twice as fast than with a full syn) you may be getting close. Here is a great site to understand oil issues today: http://www.drivenracingoil.com/dro/why-synthetic

03-29-2013, 10:54 AM	#8
SNV Drives: 2014 RRM 2ls Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,307 View My Garage	I would get a CEL off and on. After a few months it stayed on. I read the code myself with the Torque app.

03-29-2013, 02:22 PM	#9
PieNsky Drives: Victory Red 1LS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,929 View My Garage	I would let someone else else do it for $1200. A member on here said that is what he was quoted. SC2150 down in FLA will do it for less than that. I had read on here that it was a +$2000 from the dealer. That is why I did mine. I'm embarrassed to admit it, it took me two days to do it.

03-29-2013, 05:06 PM	#11
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Doing it in 2 days by yourself is impressive! Good job. We charge $999 to do the timing chains. Also, if anyone is running the GM reccomended DEXOS blend oil and not full SYN, then these wear out in app 1/2 the time. Look at this thread showing lifter wear with DEXOS blend vs regualr full syn, vs Joe Gibbs: http://www.rmmengines.com/Joe_Gibbs_Oil.html Tells a good story. The reason DEXOS is reccomended has nothing to do with protecting the engine the best, it is all marketing toward the demographic that wants cheaper maintance...same as they say 87 octaine fuel even though it is far better with the 11.3:1 compression ratio to run 93, etc.

03-29-2013, 07:05 PM	#13
ChadG Drives: 2010 Black Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,679 View My Garage	Tracy I've been using straight Mobil 1 since I got my car . . . is there a readily available oil you would recommend over it? I've never seen the Joe Gibbs oil anywhere . . .