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Cornflakes'Camaro · 04-22-2014, 10:04 PM

Car: 2011 2SS/RS
Will have roughly 50,000 miles when build is done (late July/early August)

An * means I am unsure whether these parts are needed or just safe to get. Everything else is part of the projected top end build. Give me an opinion of what I am missing to complete the job, the right way. It's a daily driver, so I am not willing to compromise on the dependability of the parts.

102 mm Fast LSX-r intake manifold
102 mm throttle body
Aftermarket fuel rails for 102 mm intake***
Cam shaft itself
Pushrods
Timing chain
Valve springs
Lockers
Valve seals
Aftermarket lifters***
Melling oil pump
Under-drive pulley***
Intake manifold gaskets***
Head gaskets***
Dyno tune

SN-I believe I am going with Tick Performance out of NC for the cam, additional parts and dyno tune as well, still not 100% since I am still working on the needed parts. Input on Tick Performance products/tune is very welcome.

Pro Stock John · 04-23-2014, 10:12 AM

The guys at Tick are great, you are in good hands.

ST1LE · 04-23-2014, 10:49 AM

Based on your build I think the FAST intake is a complete waste of money. You will see minimal gain and I think you would see better gains per $ just putting that coin towards porting your existing intake and heads instead.

camaro500 · 04-23-2014, 11:00 AM

For the $1000 you want to spend on the FAST102, put that money towards porting and polishing your heads. Great power adder!

casper sc/1ss/rs · 04-23-2014, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Based on your build I think the FAST intake is a complete waste of money. You will see minimal gain and I think you would see better gains per $ just putting that coin towards porting your existing intake and heads instead.

Hott12SS · 04-23-2014, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Based on your build I think the FAST intake is a complete waste of money. You will see minimal gain and I think you would see better gains per $ just putting that coin towards porting your existing intake and heads instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro500

For the $1000 you want to spend on the FAST102, put that money towards porting and polishing your heads. Great power adder!

+1

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Pro Stock John · 04-23-2014, 11:07 AM

Yeah if you talking to Tick, I think Martin S might suggest going into some heads ported by AI, he's a big fan.

blake-b · 04-23-2014, 11:15 AM

Don't forget to do a trunion upgrade
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/btr...union-kit.html

I also recommend Martin at Tick for a cam. The Fast 102/102 TB is also a waste of money that could be used elsewhere with more gain such as ported heads...

Cornflakes'Camaro · 04-23-2014, 07:55 PM

Thanks guys. This is the kind of feedback I am looking for. I do have good news, I used to work at Fulton Competition, (Chesnee, SC) where I learned how to deck, port and polish racing heads and intake manifolds. The best part is, I can do it myself, for free. So now that I have an extra 900-1000 dollars from not getting the intake/TB, is there anything missing that I need? (Trunion kit is added to list)

TXM62SS · 04-23-2014, 08:35 PM

3.91s are not needed but the extra $1000 you have would come close to covering it. One of the best mods I have done. Great build! Congrats!

ST1LE · 04-23-2014, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TXM62SS

3.91s are not needed but the extra $1000 you have would come close to covering it. One of the best mods I have done. Great build! Congrats!

+1, you will love some gears with a cam.

Cornflakes'Camaro · 04-23-2014, 09:51 PM

That is what was on my mind. slightly off track here, but I am going to attack the whole rear end....bushings, tie arms, trailing arms, etc. So I might put the 1k towards the rear end, as a whole.

Cornflakes'Camaro · 04-23-2014, 09:52 PM

Also, I will keep this thread active as I get closer to ordering parts, making "that or that" decisions, etc. I look forward to everyone's help here.

christianchevell · 04-24-2014, 05:33 PM

front end gaskets for the timing chain swap, ls2 dampener, harmonic balancer bolt, belts for underdrive pulley, two gallons antifreeze, two oil changes worth of Driven racing Br30 break in oil. And a g.m. three bolt sprocket for the cam with bolts.....

04-22-2014, 10:04 PM	#1
Cornflakes'Camaro Counting down the days... Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Fl Posts: 637 View My Garage	Top end build list, would like your opinion(s) Car: 2011 2SS/RS Will have roughly 50,000 miles when build is done (late July/early August) An * means I am unsure whether these parts are needed or just safe to get. Everything else is part of the projected top end build. Give me an opinion of what I am missing to complete the job, the right way. It's a daily driver, so I am not willing to compromise on the dependability of the parts. 102 mm Fast LSX-r intake manifold 102 mm throttle body Aftermarket fuel rails for 102 mm intake* Cam shaft itself Pushrods Timing chain Valve springs Lockers Valve seals Aftermarket lifters* Melling oil pump Under-drive pulley* Intake manifold gaskets* Head gaskets*** Dyno tune SN-I believe I am going with Tick Performance out of NC for the cam, additional parts and dyno tune as well, still not 100% since I am still working on the needed parts. Input on Tick Performance products/tune is very welcome. __________________ Tick Performance Custom Cam w/ support mods/BBK LT Headers w/ midpipes/Straight Exhaust/Airaid Cold Air Intake/ZL1 Driveshaft/ZL1 Differential/Hendrix Engineering Offset Bushings/ZL1 Axles/BMR Rear Subframe Bushings/BMR Toe Rods/Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion/Jannetty Winsheild Bottle Scoop/Forgestar 15x10 Beadlocks wrapped in Mickey Thompson Radial Pros Last edited by Cornflakes'Camaro; 04-22-2014 at 10:29 PM.

04-23-2014, 10:12 AM	#2
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	The guys at Tick are great, you are in good hands. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

04-23-2014, 10:49 AM	#3
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Based on your build I think the FAST intake is a complete waste of money. You will see minimal gain and I think you would see better gains per $ just putting that coin towards porting your existing intake and heads instead. __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

04-23-2014, 11:00 AM	#4
camaro500 Drives: 2017 Jaguar F Type R Tuned 498awhp Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 871 View My Garage	For the $1000 you want to spend on the FAST102, put that money towards porting and polishing your heads. Great power adder! __________________ JRE cammed w.full bolt ons 444rwhp/422rwtq SOLD 2017 Jaguar F Type R ''Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.'' - F. Bueller

04-23-2014, 11:07 AM	#7
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Yeah if you talking to Tick, I think Martin S might suggest going into some heads ported by AI, he's a big fan. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

04-23-2014, 11:15 AM	#8
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Don't forget to do a trunion upgrade http://www.briantooleyracing.com/btr...union-kit.html I also recommend Martin at Tick for a cam. The Fast 102/102 TB is also a waste of money that could be used elsewhere with more gain such as ported heads...

04-23-2014, 07:55 PM	#9
Cornflakes'Camaro Counting down the days... Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Fl Posts: 637 View My Garage	Thanks guys. This is the kind of feedback I am looking for. I do have good news, I used to work at Fulton Competition, (Chesnee, SC) where I learned how to deck, port and polish racing heads and intake manifolds. The best part is, I can do it myself, for free. So now that I have an extra 900-1000 dollars from not getting the intake/TB, is there anything missing that I need? (Trunion kit is added to list) __________________ Tick Performance Custom Cam w/ support mods/BBK LT Headers w/ midpipes/Straight Exhaust/Airaid Cold Air Intake/ZL1 Driveshaft/ZL1 Differential/Hendrix Engineering Offset Bushings/ZL1 Axles/BMR Rear Subframe Bushings/BMR Toe Rods/Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion/Jannetty Winsheild Bottle Scoop/Forgestar 15x10 Beadlocks wrapped in Mickey Thompson Radial Pros

04-23-2014, 08:35 PM	#10
TXM62SS Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 388	3.91s are not needed but the extra $1000 you have would come close to covering it. One of the best mods I have done. Great build! Congrats! __________________ Victory Red 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Camaro Pat G. Spec Cam from Cam Motion 228/236 .599/.599 112+2LSA Kooks 1-7/8" LTs w/ Cats Roto-Fab, Bo White TB, Borla Touring Catback 3.91 1LE Gears, MGW Tuned by Pat G

04-23-2014, 09:51 PM	#12
Cornflakes'Camaro Counting down the days... Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Fl Posts: 637 View My Garage	That is what was on my mind. slightly off track here, but I am going to attack the whole rear end....bushings, tie arms, trailing arms, etc. So I might put the 1k towards the rear end, as a whole. __________________ Tick Performance Custom Cam w/ support mods/BBK LT Headers w/ midpipes/Straight Exhaust/Airaid Cold Air Intake/ZL1 Driveshaft/ZL1 Differential/Hendrix Engineering Offset Bushings/ZL1 Axles/BMR Rear Subframe Bushings/BMR Toe Rods/Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion/Jannetty Winsheild Bottle Scoop/Forgestar 15x10 Beadlocks wrapped in Mickey Thompson Radial Pros Last edited by Cornflakes'Camaro; 04-24-2014 at 08:19 PM.

04-23-2014, 09:52 PM	#13
Cornflakes'Camaro Counting down the days... Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Fl Posts: 637 View My Garage	Also, I will keep this thread active as I get closer to ordering parts, making "that or that" decisions, etc. I look forward to everyone's help here. __________________ Tick Performance Custom Cam w/ support mods/BBK LT Headers w/ midpipes/Straight Exhaust/Airaid Cold Air Intake/ZL1 Driveshaft/ZL1 Differential/Hendrix Engineering Offset Bushings/ZL1 Axles/BMR Rear Subframe Bushings/BMR Toe Rods/Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion/Jannetty Winsheild Bottle Scoop/Forgestar 15x10 Beadlocks wrapped in Mickey Thompson Radial Pros

04-24-2014, 05:33 PM	#14
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	front end gaskets for the timing chain swap, ls2 dampener, harmonic balancer bolt, belts for underdrive pulley, two gallons antifreeze, two oil changes worth of Driven racing Br30 break in oil. And a g.m. three bolt sprocket for the cam with bolts..... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop