ZL1-LSA-MR+LS7+Pedders Coilovers = Z28?

[KarFan]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Let's refresh some weight-to-power numbers:

BOSS LS = 3631 lb/444 hp = 8.18 lb/hp

1LE = 3920 lb/426 hp = 9.20 lb/hp (Dual Mode may free up 5-10 additional hp; if 436, then 9.00 lb/hp)

ZEE = 3920 lb/480 hp = 8.17 lb/hp; 3920/505 (LS7) = 7.76 lb/hp

Therefore, forgetting gear ratios 'n tires sizes and all other factors, a Gen-5 ZEE needs 480+ hp to be where it needs to be...and where WE WANT IT TO BE...

That doesn't leave many certified/validated engine options.

Electronic steering on the 1LE should also free up some HP. GM may not change the advertised HP of the LS3 but I would think 1LE models with dual mode could get real close to BOSS 302 HP numbers.

[LOWDOWN]

...but carry 300 extra lb...so for an equal weight-to-power, more boil in the boiler room would be required...

If recent history tells us anything, "The Laws of Physics" actually ARE...

[2cnd chance]

2 points. #1. The Camaro has been a HUGE success. That being said it has MORE than paid for its R&D. The R&D for the LS7 was paid for long ago as well. 2 very large cost paid for. Now point #2. Marketing. The Z28 nameplate WILL cause a lot of rumble from mags and such as well as the Camaro community in general. A number of SS owners are looking to trade up and $50-60K is a bit much, but mid $40's is a much easier stretch. All companies produce the next "better" product in hopes of getting the customer to "stretch" to their max in a purchase. It also fills the pricing gap between the SS and ZL1. Then couple that with the "legendary" Z28 with a "legendary" 427...I'm sold!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by KarFan

Electronic steering on the 1LE should also free up some HP. GM may not change the advertised HP of the LS3 but I would think 1LE models with dual mode could get real close to BOSS 302 HP numbers.

Be careful what you wish for. EPAS on the Mustangs is not without a few issues, and wider tires seem to exaggerate any problems.

From my point of view, unless you're a drag racer looking to push every last possible HP and ft-lb out the flywheel end, the end result is sometimes not worth it. I don't know how to evaluate the bragging rights matter for this sort of compromise without inserting a fairly strong personal bias.


Norm

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Be careful what you wish for. EPAS on the Mustangs is not without a few issues, and wider tires seem to exaggerate any problems.

From my point of view, unless you're a drag racer looking to push every last possible HP and ft-lb out the flywheel end, the end result is sometimes not worth it. I don't know how to evaluate the bragging rights matter for this sort of compromise without inserting a fairly strong personal bias.


Norm

We can take it!

[Norm Peterson]

Could be the "problem" isn't on your end . . .


Norm

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by Trevor387

lol so the car is going to have 2 engines? ooops read to fast corrected....ps the ls7 is to expensive for them to mass produce it probably aint going to happen

Go back and read through the thread, your statement/issue has already been answered. Multiple times!
Clyde

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Trevor387

lol so the car is going to have 2 engines? ooops read to fast corrected....ps the ls7 is to expensive for them to mass produce it probably aint going to happen

Another one...

Oh thanks for visiting, bye bye now.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by Trevor387

lol so the car is going to have 2 engines? ooops read to fast corrected....ps the ls7 is to expensive for them to mass produce it probably aint going to happen

Friggin troll!
UNO!
Get rid of that POS BMW.

[2cnd chance]

Off topic...I really am not impressed with BMW's. And I don't care what the boys at TG say.

[OldScoolCamaro]

All true Chance and the other 6 OG's chiming in....this is all rehashed talk, gone over and through many times over....with nothing new brought in by the new posters. It's like a phonograhic needle skipping on a LP record...ah yes, the old vinyl records...now there's something to talk about....

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

All true Chance and the other 6 OG's chiming in....this is all rehashed talk, gone over and through many times over....with nothing new brought in by the new posters. It's like a phonograhic needle skipping on a LP record...ah yes, the old vinyl records...now there's something to talk about....

Seems like I'm lurking more and more for good news.

[Fraxum]

Off topic response:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Off topic...I really am not impressed with BMW's. And I don't care what the boys at TG say.

I owned (rented) a M6 N54 335i Sport and I am impressed. With a $200 tuning chip it would have outrun my stock LS3 SS at the drags and at the track, had 4 doors (very convenient) and got over 30 MPG on the highway (If you stayed out of the turbos.) and had great sport seats. The build quality was much higher than the SS. Sure it listed $4K higher than the Chevy, but it is one of the most versatile cars ever made. I wish I could have afforded to keep it as my daily driver and made my SS a more extreme summer weekend car.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Trevor387

lol so the car is going to have 2 engines? ooops read to fast corrected....ps the ls7 is to expensive for them to mass produce it probably aint going to happen

At first I was giving you the benefit of the doubt (everyone is titled to a opinion) but now that you have posted the same thing twice you do appear to be trolling. Am I wrong?






EDIT: all of his post are very random..... odd. Bot maybe?