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PfadtRacing · 01-04-2010, 12:24 PM

Happy New Year everyone,

I started this thread in the V8 Engine Forum as well, but I think it applies here as well because it can also be considered a chassis upgrade.

Pfadt Race Engineering releases new Camaro V8 Engine Mounts

At Pfadt, we believe in engineering-driven products that provide solutions to common limitations of performance cars. As a result of this, I wanted start a thread regarding the launch of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount Kit, which upholds this ideal in every way. My intentions are to give everyone a brief overview, and highlight the DIY aspect of this important upgrade, with comprehensive install instructions.

Our new Camaro Engine Mount kit is certainly a must for all of you who currently have, or plan on having, power adders for your 5th-gen Camaro. Just like in a suspension, soft rubber-based mounting solutions can wear out quickly, lose their effectiveness under load, and lead to problems when upgrading other components on your Camaro. Engine isolation is no exception. This is often overlooked when building a powertrain, because it is commonly a “secondary” consideration.

It is no longer a problem lacking a complete solution, however, because we are currently shipping sets of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount kit. The kit consists of a 6061 T6 aluminum upper component (with an anodized finish), a zinc plated steel lower component, graphite-impregnated polyurethane hat bushings, and all hardware necessary for installation on both sides. This kit will give you the engine restraint that your Camaro is desperately in need of. And as you will see below, it is incredibly easy for customers of all experience levels to install.

As always, please do not hesitate to contact us if you want more information, or are in need of clarification on installation.

Camaro V8 Engine Mount Installation

Tools Needed:

3/8" drive ratchet
24" long 3/8" extension
torque wrench
15mm socket
18mm deep socket
3/8" drive universal
screw jack

This procedure is best performed on a vehicle lift, however it is possible to install these mounts using a floor jack and jack stands.

The pictures below are to show the stock mount (black rubber part), with the OEM pedestal (silver component above the black mount), and its relation to the engine and front subframe.

And this picture is to illustrate exactly which component we are replacing.

Removal:

Open hood and using a long extension on a 3/8 ratchet with a swivel, remove the upper engine mount nuts on both sides of the engine (18mm hex)

Raise the car on the lift (or lift the car and safely support on jack stands). If using jack stands, it will be necessary to remove the front tires.

Using the 18mm socket, remove the nuts from the lower stud of the engine mounts.

Using the screw jack and a protective block of wood, raise the engine off of the engine mounts by lifting on a structural portion of the oil pan. Use care to not damage the cast aluminum oil pan. The upward travel of the engine will be limited by the exhaust contacting the underside of the body. Stop when contact occurs, you will get the extra room required by removing the engine mount pedestals from the engine block.

Using the 15mm socket and universal on a long extension, remove the four bolts holding the engine mount pedestals to the engine block on each side.

One at a time move the pedestals out of the way enough to remove the stock engine mounts.

Installation:

Install the Pfadt engine mounts in place of the stock mount being sure to orient the mounts correctly. The tab on the lower steel portion of the mount will engage a slot in the Camaro subframe.

Re-install the pedestals to the engine block using the original bolts. Torque bolts to 37 lb-ft

Align the upper studs on the Pfadt engine mounts with the holes in the pedestals and carefully lower the engine down onto the mounts.

Using the crush nuts from the factory mounts, start the nuts on the studs of the Pfadt mounts (upper and lower). Torque the lower nuts to 37 lb-ft

Lower the car to the ground. Using the long extension again, torque the upper engine mount nuts to 37 lb-ft.

mtcwby · 01-05-2010, 11:31 PM

Nice Aaron, let us know when you have the manual transmission mount done as well. At that time I will buy the whole set. Also, have you got instructions like this for installing your rear diff bushings?

PfadtRacing · 01-06-2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtcwby

Nice Aaron, let us know when you have the manual transmission mount done as well. At that time I will buy the whole set. Also, have you got instructions like this for installing your rear diff bushings?

This comes up often, as there are number of customers interested in transmission mounts for their Camaro. Unfortunately I can't provide any concrete date for when these will be available. But, I can say we are working on these, and we will keep everyone updated as the date draws closer. There are a number of variables involved, and we need to make sure we cover all our bases for the components we produce.

In regards to the rear diff bushing install instructions, I will make it a point to post them in this thread when they are ready. Look for these in the next week or two. Its a priority to make sure customers are clear on install procedures, so thank you for asking about them!

Blue70SS · 01-06-2010, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PfadtRacing

This comes up often, as there are number of customers interested in transmission mounts for their Camaro. Unfortunately I can't provide any concrete date for when these will be available. But, I can say we are working on these, and we will keep everyone updated as the date draws closer. There are a number of variables involved, and we need to make sure we cover all our bases for the components we produce.

In regards to the rear diff bushing install instructions, I will make it a point to post them in this thread when they are ready. Look for these in the next week or two. Its a priority to make sure customers are clear on install procedures, so thank you for asking about them!

Will be waiting! Thanks for progress in the installation instructions area.

Also looking forward to release of adjustible camber plates for your coilovers!

PfadtRacing · 01-07-2010, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue70SS

Will be waiting! Thanks for progress in the installation instructions area.

Also looking forward to release of adjustible camber plates for your coilovers!

We are working on a number of install write ups, and will be sure to post them up when they are complete. So thank you for your patience.

In regards to the camber plates, these too, are in the works. They are being phased into production as we speak, so look for them in the near future! We will be certain to let everyone know when they are available. These units will work with our Pfadt Coilovers, as well as OEM struts.

Thanks for your comments!

robertway · 01-15-2010, 11:17 AM

Aaron, I know this is an Engine Mount thread but in reference to the camber plates, is there any post you can refer me to or can you post it here as to when the camber plates would be required and/or beneficial

PfadtRacing · 01-15-2010, 12:58 PM

Certainly. We are going to be putting something official together, but I can fill you in on some info.

Essentially, there are a couple of reasons to install these. The first is if you have maxed out the OEM adjustment on the front camber bolts. The lower the ride height, the more camber correction you will need to dial in for the suspension to keep things aligned and maintain a good contact patch with the road surface, for street driving. These camber plates we are producing will provide well over an extra degree of negative adjustment.

The second reason is for quicker, more repeatable camber adjustments. If you are taking your car to an autocross, or a track day event, then it is very beneficial to be able to drive you car there, on a camber value better suited for street driving, and then dial camber in and out quickly at the track (with out having to take the wheel off etc), with more track friendly negative camber values, that are repeatable.

Look for more info soon in the future, as we are anticipating a Feb. 1st availability date. Thank you for inquiring!

01-04-2010, 12:24 PM	#1
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Pfadt Race Engineering releases new Camaro V8 Engine Mounts Happy New Year everyone, I started this thread in the V8 Engine Forum as well, but I think it applies here as well because it can also be considered a chassis upgrade. Pfadt Race Engineering releases new Camaro V8 Engine Mounts At Pfadt, we believe in engineering-driven products that provide solutions to common limitations of performance cars. As a result of this, I wanted start a thread regarding the launch of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount Kit, which upholds this ideal in every way. My intentions are to give everyone a brief overview, and highlight the DIY aspect of this important upgrade, with comprehensive install instructions. Our new Camaro Engine Mount kit is certainly a must for all of you who currently have, or plan on having, power adders for your 5th-gen Camaro. Just like in a suspension, soft rubber-based mounting solutions can wear out quickly, lose their effectiveness under load, and lead to problems when upgrading other components on your Camaro. Engine isolation is no exception. This is often overlooked when building a powertrain, because it is commonly a “secondary” consideration. It is no longer a problem lacking a complete solution, however, because we are currently shipping sets of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount kit. The kit consists of a 6061 T6 aluminum upper component (with an anodized finish), a zinc plated steel lower component, graphite-impregnated polyurethane hat bushings, and all hardware necessary for installation on both sides. This kit will give you the engine restraint that your Camaro is desperately in need of. And as you will see below, it is incredibly easy for customers of all experience levels to install. As always, please do not hesitate to contact us if you want more information, or are in need of clarification on installation. *Camaro V8 Engine Mount Installation* Tools Needed: 3/8" drive ratchet 24" long 3/8" extension torque wrench 15mm socket 18mm deep socket 3/8" drive universal screw jack This procedure is best performed on a vehicle lift, however it is possible to install these mounts using a floor jack and jack stands. The pictures below are to show the stock mount (black rubber part), with the OEM pedestal (silver component above the black mount), and its relation to the engine and front subframe. And this picture is to illustrate exactly which component we are replacing. Removal: Open hood and using a long extension on a 3/8 ratchet with a swivel, remove the upper engine mount nuts on both sides of the engine (18mm hex) Raise the car on the lift (or lift the car and safely support on jack stands). If using jack stands, it will be necessary to remove the front tires. Using the 18mm socket, remove the nuts from the lower stud of the engine mounts. Using the screw jack and a protective block of wood, raise the engine off of the engine mounts by lifting on a structural portion of the oil pan. Use care to not damage the cast aluminum oil pan. The upward travel of the engine will be limited by the exhaust contacting the underside of the body. Stop when contact occurs, you will get the extra room required by removing the engine mount pedestals from the engine block. Using the 15mm socket and universal on a long extension, remove the four bolts holding the engine mount pedestals to the engine block on each side. One at a time move the pedestals out of the way enough to remove the stock engine mounts. Installation: Install the Pfadt engine mounts in place of the stock mount being sure to orient the mounts correctly. The tab on the lower steel portion of the mount will engage a slot in the Camaro subframe. Re-install the pedestals to the engine block using the original bolts. Torque bolts to 37 lb-ft Align the upper studs on the Pfadt engine mounts with the holes in the pedestals and carefully lower the engine down onto the mounts. Using the crush nuts from the factory mounts, start the nuts on the studs of the Pfadt mounts (upper and lower). Torque the lower nuts to 37 lb-ft Lower the car to the ground. Using the long extension again, torque the upper engine mount nuts to 37 lb-ft.

01-05-2010, 11:31 PM	#2
mtcwby High on "The Camaro Life" Drives: 2010 2SS, IOM, LS3, Vortech, LG cam Join Date: May 2009 Location: Big Sandy, MT & Yuma, AZ Posts: 1,028 View My Garage	Nice Aaron, let us know when you have the manual transmission mount done as well. At that time I will buy the whole set. Also, have you got instructions like this for installing your rear diff bushings? __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."-Thomas Jefferson------Going Strong at 39,250 miles

01-15-2010, 11:17 AM	#6
robertway Drives: 2012 Challenger SRT8 Auto Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 839	Aaron, I know this is an Engine Mount thread but in reference to the camber plates, is there any post you can refer me to or can you post it here as to when the camber plates would be required and/or beneficial __________________ "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Benjamin Franklin LS3 Camshaft Swap Do-It-Yourself Instructions - 2010 LS3 gone but not forgotten!!!

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01-15-2010, 12:58 PM	#7
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Certainly. We are going to be putting something official together, but I can fill you in on some info. Essentially, there are a couple of reasons to install these. The first is if you have maxed out the OEM adjustment on the front camber bolts. The lower the ride height, the more camber correction you will need to dial in for the suspension to keep things aligned and maintain a good contact patch with the road surface, for street driving. These camber plates we are producing will provide well over an extra degree of negative adjustment. The second reason is for quicker, more repeatable camber adjustments. If you are taking your car to an autocross, or a track day event, then it is very beneficial to be able to drive you car there, on a camber value better suited for street driving, and then dial camber in and out quickly at the track (with out having to take the wheel off etc), with more track friendly negative camber values, that are repeatable. Look for more info soon in the future, as we are anticipating a Feb. 1st availability date. Thank you for inquiring!