2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by trainman

I have a 2012 CTS V Coupe with a 6-speed manual. Pure stock it made 458 rwhp. Just a tune netted 491 rwhp. An AIRAID CAI made it put down 516 rwhp. A ported LSA TB made 525 rwhp. And my latest mods (LS9 cam and springs, Kooks headers, and a 9.55 lower pulley) made 635 rwhp. That's about 750 hp + at the flywheel. The car still idles @ 750 rpm, and with stock mufflers it is totally quiet. Sitting next to me at a stop light you would not even look over at this old Grampa. I do not street race, however I enjoy the power from time to time. Last time out on M&H 275-40-17 drag radials it went 11.18 @ 127 (126.90 actually) mph in the heat with the DA of over 1800'. So I'm pretty close to the specs of the Hellcat (hp, and 12.5 lbs of boost) with just the 1.9 blower compared to their 2.4. So the short answer...no the LSA has not seen it's potential limit. I will be installing some Mickey Thompson DR's on my factory wheels for street use just in case.

A damn stout car you have there!! With minimal mods to boot. Bet it surprises a lot of ppl.

[v8]

Originally Posted by trainman

I have a 2012 CTS V Coupe with a 6-speed manual. Pure stock it made 458 rwhp. Just a tune netted 491 rwhp. An AIRAID CAI made it put down 516 rwhp. A ported LSA TB made 525 rwhp. And my latest mods (LS9 cam and springs, Kooks headers, and a 9.55 lower pulley) made 635 rwhp. That's about 750 hp + at the flywheel. The car still idles @ 750 rpm, and with stock mufflers it is totally quiet. Sitting next to me at a stop light you would not even look over at this old Grampa. I do not street race, however I enjoy the power from time to time. Last time out on M&H 275-40-17 drag radials it went 11.18 @ 127 (126.90 actually) mph in the heat with the DA of over 1800'. So I'm pretty close to the specs of the Hellcat (hp, and 12.5 lbs of boost) with just the 1.9 blower compared to their 2.4. So the short answer...no the LSA has not seen it's potential limit. I will be installing some Mickey Thompson DR's on my factory wheels for street use just in case.

You modified your car to get that power and thus do not have a warrantly. The Hellcat comes with that power from the factory.

The LSA is a great engine and I don't think its maxed out by any means, but in order to get a go fast car you have to void your warrantly which effects your trade in value later down the road. I think if the Hellcat was modded it would produce even more and it already has a bigger blower, forged pistons etc.

As much as I'm a Chevy guy I would consider this car. One of the reasons I stayed away from the car was the interior which I did not car for(subjective) But the new interior is pretty fine. It will be interesting to see what the car does when it gets in the hands of some drivers on the strip.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by v8

The LSA is a great engine and I don't think its maxed out by any means, but in order to get a go fast car you have to void your warrantly which effects your trade in value later down the road.

This point has me considering the Lingenfelter 700 package for the ZL1. Comes with 2years, 24,000 warrenty and (I feel) the name Lingenfelter attached to the work eliminates concerns and value hit when it is later sold. Cost listed on line is $11,245 for 623rwhp, 617rw-ft lb.

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by v8

You modified your car to get that power and thus do not have a warrantly. The Hellcat comes with that power from the factory.

The LSA is a great engine and I don't think its maxed out by any means, but in order to get a go fast car you have to void your warrantly which effects your trade in value later down the road. I think if the Hellcat was modded it would produce even more and it already has a bigger blower, forged pistons etc.

As much as I'm a Chevy guy I would consider this car. One of the reasons I stayed away from the car was the interior which I did not car for(subjective) But the new interior is pretty fine. It will be interesting to see what the car does when it gets in the hands of some drivers on the strip.

Word me too. I wonder how hard it would be to shave 200-300 pounds off this thing without voiding the warranty. If that was possible all you'd need to go get is the 8 speed and some real nice tires and you have a factory warranted mid to high 10 second car that is also a more comfortable cruiser than anything like a GTR. I'm liking it the more I think about it...
Not to mention but Challengers and more rare than Camaros or Mustangs.

[trainman]

Originally Posted by v8

You modified your car to get that power and thus do not have a warrantly. The Hellcat comes with that power from the factory.

The LSA is a great engine and I don't think its maxed out by any means, but in order to get a go fast car you have to void your warrantly which effects your trade in value later down the road. I think if the Hellcat was modded it would produce even more and it already has a bigger blower, forged pistons etc.

As much as I'm a Chevy guy I would consider this car. One of the reasons I stayed away from the car was the interior which I did not car for(subjective) But the new interior is pretty fine. It will be interesting to see what the car does when it gets in the hands of some drivers on the strip.

In my case you are wrong. My dealership is very cool, I just had the entire supercharger fixed on a GM recall (solid coupler replacement) and all my mods were in place. They even extended the supercharger warranty to 120,000 miles. I realize my case is different, as many dealerships would not have done so. In my case though I wanted to have fun with the car, and I am willing to pay for things I break, I have the warranty for all of the electronic gizmo's (Nav, stereo , windows , heated and cooled seats and such).

[HEMI DAVE]

http://youtu.be/4msuzJGlsoY

[trainman]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

This point has me considering the Lingenfelter 700 package for the ZL1. Comes with 2years, 24,000 warrenty and (I feel) the name Lingenfelter attached to the work eliminates concerns and value hit when it is later sold. Cost listed on line is $11,245 for 623rwhp, 617rw-ft lb.

I hit 635 rwhp for about $4,000 installed. And I still have a 100'000 power train warranty.....although I am currently replacing the flywheel and factory clutch with a McLeod RXT and Aluminum flywheel. I'll see if that makes a difference.

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

http://youtu.be/4msuzJGlsoY

I know he's "just the engine guy" but I laughed when they asked about the suspension and brakes and his response was "well it's got nice big breaks you can see through the beautiful new wheels."

[v8]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

This point has me considering the Lingenfelter 700 package for the ZL1. Comes with 2years, 24,000 warrenty and (I feel) the name Lingenfelter attached to the work eliminates concerns and value hit when it is later sold. Cost listed on line is $11,245 for 623rwhp, 617rw-ft lb.

I was thinkning the same thing, as at least with the Lingenfelter kit it is a known name so it shouldn't hurt resale and you are getting good parts.

Originally Posted by trainman

In my case you are wrong. My dealership is very cool, I just had the entire supercharger fixed on a GM recall (solid coupler replacement) and all my mods were in place. They even extended the supercharger warranty to 120,000 miles. I realize my case is different, as many dealerships would not have done so. In my case though I wanted to have fun with the car, and I am willing to pay for things I break, I have the warranty for all of the electronic gizmo's (Nav, stereo , windows , heated and cooled seats and such).

You are one lucky guy, especially sisnce you have gone inside the engine changed your camshaft. Not many dealers would warranty a car with the mods you have. I hope the dealer is not feeding you lipservice. It would be interesting to see if you threw a rod, how co-operative they would be if you needed a new block.

Originally Posted by trainman

I hit 635 rwhp for about $4,000 installed. And I still have a 100'000 power train warranty.....although I am currently replacing the flywheel and factory clutch with a McLeod RXT and Aluminum flywheel. I'll see if that makes a difference.

Once again you are lucky, BUT this dealer has you hostage because no other dealer will warrantly your car so if you go to sell it, you are stuck trading it with these guys (for another GM), or selling privately and trying to convince the buyer you still have warranty. If they are good to you that's great, but if you have a fall out with them you could be up the creek.

Koodos to you for getting warranty on that car.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

http://youtu.be/4msuzJGlsoY

He basically repeats what the web page gives regarding suspension. Big front brakes and is tune-able for street, sport or track.

Do you know how this is accomplished? What tires is it running?

[woodside783]

Can't tell him nothing

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by trainman

I hit 635 rwhp for about $4,000 installed. And I still have a 100'000 power train warranty.....although I am currently replacing the flywheel and factory clutch with a McLeod RXT and Aluminum flywheel. I'll see if that makes a difference.

It can definitely be done for less money but the workmanship will come into question when the car is sold. A guy was recently asking opinions regarding a 600 rwhp 2013 at a dealer
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...23#post7795923

If you put a piston through the side of your block, you will not have warranty. That is my biggest concern regarding tunes. I can do the mechanical work myself easily.

[v8]

+1

I was thinking the same thing

[Col. Brain]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I'm not a 1/4 pro or expert, but do you see this car in the 10s BONE stock?

most casual drivers will probably have a hard time doing this

but mineshaft DA and the right launch - yeah this car has the power to go high 10s stock

pull off the mufflers
remove the seats (maybe a few extra lbs of other stuff as well)

and yes it should do it


drag radials
juice
and some weight removal should have it solidly in the 9s