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CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 11:17 AM

I put a set of eibach pro lowering springs on my ss Wednesday, and aligned my car Saturday... My question is, the alignment shop didn't seem too concerned about Timing the bushings, but they said they did it "for a piece of mind". They may of loosened the bolts, but they didn't bounce it, and said they never have an issue with bushings. Did they do enough?

They also tell me that I need a set of 400 dollar camber crash plates in order to zero out the front camber, which by the read out is off by .3 degrees... Which is enough to have a slight pull to the right. Am I being jerked around? Or are these plates the only way to get my car to drive straight?

Thanks for anybodys help or suggestions

CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 05:58 PM

Can anybody offer any advice?

PfadtRacing · 08-15-2011, 06:08 PM

Is there a particular reason you're looking to go with 0 front camber? Unless you're running extreme negative camber settings it's not camber that eats tires up, it's toe.

Here is a copy of our alignment guide, it should get you started at getting your alignment squared away.

Pfadt Race Engineering Alignment Recommendations.

CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 06:13 PM

I just wanted the most stock setup, with even tire wear. No track racing, this is my dd.

Should I goto a different shop?

JordonMusser · 08-15-2011, 08:01 PM

Different shop, that alignment is terrible.

The Stig · 08-15-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JordonMusser

Different shop, that alignment is terrible.

-.3 degrees camber isn't enough to make you pull to the right, nor enough to eat up tires. I second the motion of finding another shop.

FEN · 08-15-2011, 08:17 PM

I have the Eibach springs as well and the dealership had no issues when aligning my car and timing the bushings.

CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stieger

-.3 degrees camber isn't enough to make you pull to the right, nor enough to eat up tires. I second the motion of finding another shop.

Anybody know of any good alignment shops in the dfw area?

JordonMusser · 08-15-2011, 09:37 PM

Cyber-
Give us a call!

CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JordonMusser

Cyber-
Give us a call!

Hi Jordan, thanks for the help... But could you recommend a shop that's a little closer to Arlington? I live in south Mansfield, and that's a bit of a drive for me

bkscott · 08-15-2011, 09:55 PM

If you want it done right make the drive. I live in Grand Prairie and I have been to Momentum twice. Most places don't know about 5th gens, and their suspensions. They do.

If you still don't want to make the trip you can try Classic Chevy in Grapevine, but is it were me I would take the drive to Lewisville.

JusticePete · 08-15-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDan

I put a set of eibach pro lowering springs on my ss Wednesday, and aligned my car Saturday... My question is, the alignment shop didn't seem too concerned about Timing the bushings, but they said they did it "for a piece of mind". They may of loosened the bolts, but they didn't bounce it, and said they never have an issue with bushings. Did they do enough?

They also tell me that I need a set of 400 dollar camber crash plates in order to zero out the front camber, which by the read out is off by .3 degrees... Which is enough to have a slight pull to the right. Am I being jerked around? Or are these plates the only way to get my car to drive straight?

Thanks for anybodys help or suggestions

They don't know how to adjust camber on a ZETA chassis. Chevrolet did not incude the camber adjusting screw or the how to. Here is a picture of the camber screw.

Take your Camaro back to the alignment shop with these instructions:

1. Have them find a bolt in the shop that fits in the hole in the knuckle.
2. They loosen the clevis bolts and screw in for positive camber or out to increase negative camber. They can adjust camber through the wheel spokes with the alignment heads in place.
3. Tighten the clevis bolts.
4. Remove the temporary camber bolt or bolts.

CyberDan · 08-15-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bkscott

If you want it done right make the drive. I live in Grand Prairie and I have been to Mpmentum twice. Most places don't know about 5th gens, and their suspensions. They do.

If you still don't want to make the trip you can try Classic Chevy in Grapevine, but is it were me I would take the drive to Lewisville.

Thanks, like you said... If I want it done right...

Thanks justice Pete... But I honestly would like to avoid that alignment shop if possible, they seemed shady to begin with, so I don't want to risk Amy damage to my ride, I'll probably just make the trip to momentum.

JusticePete · 08-15-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberDan

Thanks justice Pete... But I honestly would like to avoid that alignment shop if possible, they seemed shady to begin with, so I don't want to risk Amy damage to my ride, I'll probably just make the trip to momentum.

That will work!

08-15-2011, 11:17 AM	#1
CyberDan Drives: 1SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 661	Vehicle alignment after drop springs... Wtf? I put a set of eibach pro lowering springs on my ss Wednesday, and aligned my car Saturday... My question is, the alignment shop didn't seem too concerned about Timing the bushings, but they said they did it "for a piece of mind". They may of loosened the bolts, but they didn't bounce it, and said they never have an issue with bushings. Did they do enough? They also tell me that I need a set of 400 dollar camber crash plates in order to zero out the front camber, which by the read out is off by .3 degrees... Which is enough to have a slight pull to the right. Am I being jerked around? Or are these plates the only way to get my car to drive straight? Thanks for anybodys help or suggestions __________________ CAI Cold Air Intake, VMax CNC TB, Borla Sport Catback Exhaust, EE Oil Catch Can, Eibach Sway Bars and Drop Springs, AAC concept side markers, stealth signal bulbs, Heritage grille, Sparks Restorations front and rear modern SS emblems Last edited by CyberDan; 08-15-2011 at 05:57 PM.

08-15-2011, 05:58 PM	#2
CyberDan Drives: 1SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 661	Can anybody offer any advice? __________________ CAI Cold Air Intake, VMax CNC TB, Borla Sport Catback Exhaust, EE Oil Catch Can, Eibach Sway Bars and Drop Springs, AAC concept side markers, stealth signal bulbs, Heritage grille, Sparks Restorations front and rear modern SS emblems

08-15-2011, 06:13 PM	#4
CyberDan Drives: 1SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 661	I just wanted the most stock setup, with even tire wear. No track racing, this is my dd. Should I goto a different shop? __________________ CAI Cold Air Intake, VMax CNC TB, Borla Sport Catback Exhaust, EE Oil Catch Can, Eibach Sway Bars and Drop Springs, AAC concept side markers, stealth signal bulbs, Heritage grille, Sparks Restorations front and rear modern SS emblems

08-15-2011, 08:01 PM	#5
JordonMusser Drives: 2010 Momentum Race Group Camaro GS. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lewisville, TX Posts: 214	Different shop, that alignment is terrible. __________________ -2006 Z06, Vortech, Stereo, +Goodies -2006 BMW 325i, Stereo, +Goodies -Design.Engineering-Motorsport.Defense -http://www.Mussco.com -http://www.JordonMusser.com

08-15-2011, 08:17 PM	#7
FEN Drives: BLACK 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,092	I have the Eibach springs as well and the dealership had no issues when aligning my car and timing the bushings. __________________ CCW polished 505a's Front 20x10 w/275/40/20's Rear 20x11.5 w/305/35/20's Eibach 1" Pro Spring Kit Factory GFX MPD1 spoiler painted bowties 15% tint

08-15-2011, 06:08 PM	#3
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Is there a particular reason you're looking to go with 0 front camber? Unless you're running extreme negative camber settings it's not camber that eats tires up, it's toe. Here is a copy of our alignment guide, it should get you started at getting your alignment squared away. Pfadt Race Engineering Alignment Recommendations.

08-15-2011, 09:37 PM	#9
JordonMusser Drives: 2010 Momentum Race Group Camaro GS. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lewisville, TX Posts: 214	Cyber- Give us a call! __________________ -2006 Z06, Vortech, Stereo, +Goodies -2006 BMW 325i, Stereo, +Goodies -Design.Engineering-Motorsport.Defense -http://www.Mussco.com -http://www.JordonMusser.com

08-15-2011, 09:55 PM	#11
bkscott Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grand Prairie, Texas Posts: 1,608 View My Garage	If you want it done right make the drive. I live in Grand Prairie and I have been to Momentum twice. Most places don't know about 5th gens, and their suspensions. They do. If you still don't want to make the trip you can try Classic Chevy in Grapevine, but is it were me I would take the drive to Lewisville. __________________ 94 Firebird Formula (Drowned 08/30/05) 2010 IBM 2SS/RS 6M Arrived 3/25/10. ADM CAI, Borla Type S Cat Back, VMAX Ported TB, LG Short Throw Shifter, 1LE Shocks, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Whiteline Cradle Bushing Inserts, Custom Powdercoated ZL1's ,Michelin Pilot Supersports, Stainless Power Headers, Solo J Pipes, AAC LED Sidemarkers, ZL1 Rockers, SLP Splitter, ADM Stage II Cam,ZL1 Diffuser,Vitesse Throttle Controller. Last edited by bkscott; 08-15-2011 at 10:44 PM.

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