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spyderbuddy · 04-18-2012, 09:06 PM

Has anyone come up wit some numbers yet?

Lil' Nasty · 04-18-2012, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach

Yeah Yeah.. So what is the next bolt on?

+1

bmorecam · 04-18-2012, 09:56 PM

Keith....trust me, I really really hate typing on my phone LOL! But I did just pickup a new tablet from Costco the other day and that made it so much better. I guess we are in the new age of thumb typing

These LLT engine is one hell of a knock sensitive engine. It knock anywhere from 3 to 12 on wot depending on different conditions on 93 octane at different rpm range, but direct injected engines with high CR are usually factory implemented with severe octane sensitivity. Vince one time said these engines run massive amount of timing but also pull massive amount of timing LOL. We even seen KR on E85 up to 5* sometimes. Its just the nature of SIDI with high CR.

Now, as far as some dyno data...you guys know is coming

we had to work out a few things, so the continuance from the first possible new tune we were testing got delayed. We was going to shoot for this week but vince left on vacation. However, I do have all of the files so early next week definitely! And we will be killing two bird with one stone

Steve, we all appreciate the years of research you guys been putting down over there in AU with another GM Family aka commodores, and thank you for giving us a part of what the other side has to offer! One hell of a way to kick off 2012!

Sent from my VTAB1008 using Tapatalk 2

Mach · 04-18-2012, 10:26 PM

So these motors pull timing (lose HP) when knock is detected?

2011redLS · 04-18-2012, 11:40 PM

Please PM price with 3/8" spacer bolt kit to 48158.

nyrfan · 04-19-2012, 08:20 AM

Can I get a price shipped to 32837 with the needed bolts for the Vmax Ice-olator

Ventmaster · 04-19-2012, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach

So these motors pull timing (lose HP) when knock is detected?

Yes, and are apparently quite sensitive- they can't tell real knock from a rattling exhaust, so keep everything tightened down!

Our DI engines are pushing the envelope in engine output. The direct injection of fuel cools things down-avoiding hot spots.

And by waiting (advancing timing) as late as possible in the compression cycle, it literally generates the biggest bang for your buck!

h2oplay · 04-19-2012, 08:55 AM

Question for Steve @ Mace,

without prying too much, how did you come up with the best thickness for this? Did you test it with thicker and thinner spacers?

TheBlack-CyberGray-Pearl · 04-19-2012, 11:55 AM

thank you Ventmaster and Bmorecam for you wise wisdom and help out us new kids

Lil' Nasty · 04-19-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyrfan

Can I get a price shipped to 32837 with the needed bolts for the Vmax Ice-olator

me too

32308

MACE_ENG · 04-19-2012, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmorecam

Keith....trust me, I really really hate typing on my phone LOL! But I did just pickup a new tablet from Costco the other day and that made it so much better. I guess we are in the new age of thumb typing

These LLT engine is one hell of a knock sensitive engine. It knock anywhere from 3 to 12 on wot depending on different conditions on 93 octane at different rpm range, but direct injected engines with high CR are usually factory implemented with severe octane sensitivity. Vince one time said these engines run massive amount of timing but also pull massive amount of timing LOL. We even seen KR on E85 up to 5* sometimes. Its just the nature of SIDI with high CR.

Now, as far as some dyno data...you guys know is coming

we had to work out a few things, so the continuance from the first possible new tune we were testing got delayed. We was going to shoot for this week but vince left on vacation. However, I do have all of the files so early next week definitely! And we will be killing two bird with one stone

Steve, we all appreciate the years of research you guys been putting down over there in AU with another GM Family aka commodores, and thank you for giving us a part of what the other side has to offer! One hell of a way to kick off 2012!

Sent from my VTAB1008 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks Jay

Good that you'll still be able to do some testing that Vince is on leave

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011redLS

Please PM price with 3/8" spacer bolt kit to 48158.

PM Shortly

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyrfan

Can I get a price shipped to 32837 with the needed bolts for the Vmax Ice-olator

PM Shortly

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2oplay

Question for Steve @ Mace,

without prying too much, how did you come up with the best thickness for this? Did you test it with thicker and thinner spacers?

Having done a lot of development work with inlet and induction systems over the years, across a broad range of engines, working out a suitable size for the LLT wasn't too bad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklin's Bee

me too

32308

PM shortly

menendez1293 · 04-22-2012, 09:28 PM

Bump to see if you have any dyno numbers yet.

JHenfling · 04-22-2012, 09:49 PM

Any numbers yet.

Cyber Gray · 04-23-2012, 02:59 AM

No dyno number, but I have Jennifer Lopez number if you are interested

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04-18-2012, 10:26 PM	#144
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04-18-2012, 11:40 PM	#145
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04-19-2012, 08:20 AM	#146
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04-19-2012, 11:55 AM	#149
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04-18-2012, 09:56 PM	#143
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	Keith....trust me, I really really hate typing on my phone LOL! But I did just pickup a new tablet from Costco the other day and that made it so much better. I guess we are in the new age of thumb typing These LLT engine is one hell of a knock sensitive engine. It knock anywhere from 3 to 12 on wot depending on different conditions on 93 octane at different rpm range, but direct injected engines with high CR are usually factory implemented with severe octane sensitivity. Vince one time said these engines run massive amount of timing but also pull massive amount of timing LOL. We even seen KR on E85 up to 5* sometimes. Its just the nature of SIDI with high CR. Now, as far as some dyno data...you guys know is coming we had to work out a few things, so the continuance from the first possible new tune we were testing got delayed. We was going to shoot for this week but vince left on vacation. However, I do have all of the files so early next week definitely! And we will be killing two bird with one stone Steve, we all appreciate the years of research you guys been putting down over there in AU with another GM Family aka commodores, and thank you for giving us a part of what the other side has to offer! One hell of a way to kick off 2012! Sent from my VTAB1008 using Tapatalk 2

04-19-2012, 08:55 AM	#148
h2oplay Winners find a way Drives: 2010 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,137	Question for Steve @ Mace, without prying too much, how did you come up with the best thickness for this? Did you test it with thicker and thinner spacers?

04-22-2012, 09:28 PM	#152
menendez1293 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 9,687 View My Garage	Bump to see if you have any dyno numbers yet.

04-22-2012, 09:49 PM	#153
JHenfling Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT/RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kennett Mo Posts: 58	Any numbers yet.

04-23-2012, 02:59 AM	#154
Cyber Gray Wind Rider Drives: ZL1 19 White; Jeep 5.7 GC 15 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Muscat Posts: 2,059 View My Garage	No dyno number, but I have Jennifer Lopez number if you are interested .

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