1LE Rear Tire Size

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

I can tell you that one of the engineers on the Z28 and 1LE is one of the best Pro Touring drivers in the nation, so I would take what he says a gospel in regard to our Camaro's...so I would show some respect to the design team.

that being said, I don't have his skills and like my Camaro set up with a slightly larger rear tire for a bit more grip after adding more horsepower...that's my preference for handling in my Camaro on the track...

Mark Steilow does have impressive credentials. Cody disrespects him at his own risk.

Adding more power (and I think particularly more torque) does tend to call for a little more rear tire. It is my understanding that Ford's GT500 was not originally intended to get staggered tire sizes, but couldn't meet certain corporate standards without doing so. In that case, the wheels are the same width, with a min-width tire up front (dare I say stretched?) and a max-width tire out back (squeezed?). Coincidence? Probably not.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

It makes me laugh when people get their panties so tightly wadded thet they need to single people out and call them a troll. My reply was based on the OP's question and so far is a more ligit answer than anything else. Regardless of what a few "wanna be" experts in here think stretching the rear tire is a piss poor way of tuning handling.

Don't knock it until you've tried it. You don't even know enough about slip angle management to be dangerous. Fortunately for all concerned, I guess.


Norm

[2cnd chance]

Now that's schoolin'!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

A 285 tire has no place on a 11" rim, period.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Just as I am entitled to agree with 285's on 11's and 305's on 11.5's as being somewhat extreme but entirely valid OE fitments.

You'll need to explain the failures beyond mentioning them.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

This whole thread is about the stretched rear tires on the 1LE. The word stretched has been used more than 20 times by everyone. Yet somehow a 285/35/20 isn't what you consider stretched on a 11" wide wheel?

Are you ****ing blind?

No.

You're stuck with a mental picture that wants to see a nice, softish sidewall bulge. And a stubbornness that refuses to admit that even when the T&RA officially OK's the combination that it still isn't any good because you don't happen to like it.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Dropspeed

We can skip past all of the above and go straight for some good old fashion facts.

Have you owned a 1LE?
Have you driven a 1LE on a track?

I'll settle for the answer to . . .

Have you ever driven the same car before and after fitting tires that were stretched out to max recommended width?

If, as I suspect, the answer is 'no', he is arguing from neither experience nor engineering comprehension.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Is it silly to stretch a tire rather than tune the chassis to most, yes.

Your definition of "stretched" is too conservative. That's OK. It leaves potential handling performance on the table, but it's OK.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

This is fact ↓↓↓

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Hey look you read the specs for this tire size.

This is biased, nonscientific opinion ↓↓↓

I went outside and looked at one.

Do you understand the difference?


Norm

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

This is fact ↓↓↓





This is biased, nonscientific opinion ↓↓↓



Do you understand the difference?


Norm

As you can tell at that point I was done.

[Norm Peterson]

I was just working my way down the thread opening up each reply in a separate window so I wouldn't lose my place. Dunno if it was better to throw up so many replies all at once or if it'd have worked out better if I'd seen the thread sooner.

Tomorrow's another day.

Porridge?


Norm

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I was just working my way down the thread opening up each reply in a separate window so I wouldn't lose my place. Dunno if it was better to throw up so many replies all at once or if it'd have worked out better if I'd seen the thread sooner.

Tomorrow's another day.

Porridge?


Norm

Yeah, porridge!

[Firefighter]

Norm I like your style. Not sure of the significance of porridge but sure I'll take some. LoL

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Norm I like your style. Not sure of the significance of porridge but sure I'll take some. LoL

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD

It's in the thread.

[Dropspeed]

Norm kudos for remaining mature and stating facts. I on the other hand stooped to play at his level. .