easy ANSWER to 2013 GT500 dilemma! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

IcePick06 · 11-16-2011, 02:22 AM

For all those crying about the 650 HP on the 2013 GT500 just go to a tuner like the boys at Lingenfelter to solve your problem and match the new Ford. For less than $5k and only 4 days worth of downtime you too can have 650 HP on your ZL1 (even with launch control it may still post same 0-60 times due to traction issues) the 1/4 mile will surely be improved. If you want I hear they even have 1,000 HP package so you too can have more power than the upcoming 2016 GT500

http://lingenfelter.com/engine-packa...arger-system-0

Seriously though, I read a review of the lingenfelter cts-v and that thing was a beast. I may do this upgrade as a Christmas present to myself next year once more data is posted on their site.

Revo1 · 11-16-2011, 02:28 AM

Already sick of hearing about the 2013 Rust-stain. They're highly overrated, and all Ford does anyway is wait for GM to make a move, then 1-up it. Stupid... Give GM a couple years and they'll answer back.

Kluch · 11-16-2011, 02:38 AM

Yes, but the mods will VOID your waranty. You can mod anything and make it a beast, but getting it to come that way with a factory powertrain waranty is why people are so deflated by Ford's announcement.

SSMagna · 11-16-2011, 06:17 AM

I know it wasn't something I wanted to hear either but I purchased a SS and wasn't worried about the Mustang. Factory to factory the camaro losses at the drag strip so you have four option the way I see it: 1. Race from a dead stop and hope traction saves you. 2. Race around a corner (not recommended) 3. Avoid the race all together. 4. Take it to ADM Performance and make them cry and avoid you the next time. I prefer number 4 myself. The factory warranty is important and I understand that but is it really worth not being completely happy with your new car just incase something breaks? If the warranty is to you then do the first 3 and at 36,001 miles take it to Andy. Problem solved

htron50 · 11-16-2011, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMagna

I know it wasn't something I wanted to hear either but I purchased a SS and wasn't worried about the Mustang. Factory to factory the camaro losses at the drag strip so you have four option the way I see it: 1. Race from a dead stop and hope traction saves you. 2. Race around a corner (not recommended) 3. Avoid the race all together. 4. Take it to ADM Performance and make them cry and avoid you the next time. I prefer number 4 myself. The factory warranty is important and I understand that but is it really worth not being completely happy with your new car just incase something breaks? If the warranty is to you then do the first 3 and at 36,001 miles take it to Andy. Problem solved

ADM is a nasty moniker where I come from. It means:
Additional Dealer Markup. The City Chevrolet Folks don't ever do that!

But I still get pukey when I see the three little letters... They were all over the "hemi" cars and the GT500 in my city. For what??

IROCanSS · 11-16-2011, 06:30 AM

I know everyone here loves the LS series but if GM wants to compete... I mean really compete, they need to get with the times as the blown 32V V8 DOHC will always out power a blown 16V pushrod design... Sorry.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-16-2011, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

ADM is a nasty moniker where I come from. It means:
Additional Dealer Markup. The City Chevrolet Folks don't ever do that!

But I still get pukey when I see the three little letters... They were all over the "hemi" cars and the GT500 in my city. For what??

Seems your talking about my company,we don't
Do hemi,ford,Honda,Mazda,Subaru.we focus 100
Percent on Camaro.

Google is you friend - ADM PERFORMANCE

BTW-We are the 2nd largest Lingenfelter dealer
In the country....google can't tell you that but
Lingenfelter sales staff can.

SSMagna · 11-16-2011, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

ADM For what??

Horsepower!!!

Kluch · 11-16-2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Seems your talking about my company,we don't
Do hemi,ford,Honda,Mazda,Subaru.we focus 100
Percent on Camaro.

Google is you friend - ADM PERFORMANCE

BTW-We are the 2nd largest Lingenfelter dealer
In the country....google can't tell you that but
Lingenfelter sales staff can.

No, he was referring to the additional dealer markup (ADM) on the above vehicles when they were the new, hot, car. He was not implying your company worked on those cars. The previous guy referenced your company.

actireman · 11-16-2011, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

I know everyone here loves the LS series but if GM wants to compete... I mean really compete, they need to get with the times as the blown 32V V8 DOHC will always out power a blown 16V pushrod design... Sorry.

Your 100% right. I'm a racer and the new ford engine can spin forever. For them to make 650hp is nothing, there are guys out there making 1300hp on that platform and they all say the difference is how hard they can spin them and how much fuel and air they can stuff in there. I am a GM man thru and thru and will own the ZL1, but your right on the engine platform.

htron50 · 11-16-2011, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Seems your talking about my company,we don't
Do hemi,ford,Honda,Mazda,Subaru.we focus 100
Percent on Camaro.

Google is you friend - ADM PERFORMANCE

BTW-We are the 2nd largest Lingenfelter dealer
In the country....google can't tell you that but
Lingenfelter sales staff can.

I apologize for any inference here! ..... it WAS NOT directed at your company.. not one bit!!

It's directed at the Chrysler dealers and Ford dealers who BOLDY put "addon" sheet alongside the window sticker and typed in the following:

ADM $5000. (Added Dealer Markup)I HIGHLY recommend folks check out your site for GM dedicated upgrades! I will do so myself.

I am sure you will have parts needed to enhance my ride. Again, please know this was NOT directed at you guys!

Everyone.. check out http://admperformance.com/index.php for great upgrades!

BackToTheFuture · 11-16-2011, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actireman

Your 100% right. I'm a racer and the new ford engine can spin forever. For them to make 650hp is nothing, there are guys out there making 1300hp on that platform and they all say the difference is how hard they can spin them and how much fuel and air they can stuff in there. I am a GM man thru and thru and will own the ZL1, but your right on the engine platform.

But at the same time the push rod aspect of the LS engines make them so much easier to work on. I will swap out a cam in my home garage on a LS engine any day, but swapping the cams on modular engines is a whole other story.

JoshBobGuptaMarley · 11-16-2011, 07:22 AM

It's clear that ford takes its Qs from gm. This new Boss is a cry for help from a brand that has fallen way behind. You can't ignore that.

oldfriend · 11-16-2011, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kluch

Yes, but the mods will VOID your waranty. You can mod anything and make it a beast, but getting it to come that way with a factory powertrain waranty is why people are so deflated by Ford's announcement.

Then there is only one way to fix the problem , get the BUGGATY VEYRON and get a good night sleep .

11-16-2011, 02:22 AM	#1
IcePick06 Drives: '12 AGM ZL1 (SOLD); '07 Ducati 1098 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tha OCizzle Posts: 731	easy ANSWER to 2013 GT500 dilemma! For all those crying about the 650 HP on the 2013 GT500 just go to a tuner like the boys at Lingenfelter to solve your problem and match the new Ford. For less than $5k and only 4 days worth of downtime you too can have 650 HP on your ZL1 (even with launch control it may still post same 0-60 times due to traction issues) the 1/4 mile will surely be improved. If you want I hear they even have 1,000 HP package so you too can have more power than the upcoming 2016 GT500 http://lingenfelter.com/engine-packa...arger-system-0 Seriously though, I read a review of the lingenfelter cts-v and that thing was a beast. I may do this upgrade as a Christmas present to myself next year once more data is posted on their site.

11-16-2011, 02:28 AM	#2
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Already sick of hearing about the 2013 Rust-stain. They're highly overrated, and all Ford does anyway is wait for GM to make a move, then 1-up it. Stupid... Give GM a couple years and they'll answer back. __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

11-16-2011, 07:22 AM	#13
JoshBobGuptaMarley Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: '12 2SS/RS LS3 GBA Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: PanamaCityBeach,Florida Posts: 1,375 View My Garage	It's clear that ford takes its Qs from gm. This new Boss is a cry for help from a brand that has fallen way behind. You can't ignore that. __________________ Muffler Delete, Cold Air Inductions intake, Technostalgia Sequential LED Tail Lights, Vmax CNC Ported TB, RX Catch Can, AAC LED Interior Lights (Aqua)

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11-16-2011, 02:38 AM	#3
Kluch Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: LSD Posts: 159	Yes, but the mods will VOID your waranty. You can mod anything and make it a beast, but getting it to come that way with a factory powertrain waranty is why people are so deflated by Ford's announcement.

11-16-2011, 06:17 AM	#4
SSMagna FAST1 Drives: ADM LSX 427 Twin Turbo #1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 402	I know it wasn't something I wanted to hear either but I purchased a SS and wasn't worried about the Mustang. Factory to factory the camaro losses at the drag strip so you have four option the way I see it: 1. Race from a dead stop and hope traction saves you. 2. Race around a corner (not recommended) 3. Avoid the race all together. 4. Take it to ADM Performance and make them cry and avoid you the next time. I prefer number 4 myself. The factory warranty is important and I understand that but is it really worth not being completely happy with your new car just incase something breaks? If the warranty is to you then do the first 3 and at 36,001 miles take it to Andy. Problem solved

11-16-2011, 06:30 AM	#6
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	I know everyone here loves the LS series but if GM wants to compete... I mean really compete, they need to get with the times as the blown 32V V8 DOHC will always out power a blown 16V pushrod design... Sorry.