06-30-2012, 10:14 PM | #1 |
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The proper use of the 3rd generation magnetic ride control system
Putting this system in an overly bulky Camaro so it can basically tie a IRS lumbered Mustang is a pathetic use for such amazing technology as is putting it in the new Range Rover. At first I was impressed with the system and the way it transformed the Camaro into a track star. I even imagined how it could make the Boss or Shelby a better car! Then the new Viper came out. Watching the track version of that car lap a track makes me realize nothing beats a car engineered from the ground up to live on the track. The correct use of this system is the way Ferrari uses it in the 458 Italia...to make a track car liveable on the street. Fact is, the new GTR-S Viper would benefit from this system more than the Camaro or Mustang. Hopefully a next generation lighter Camaro with a better sorted chassis and suspension will really show the benefits of this amazing system rather than the band-aid approach currently taken that we all have Ooohed and Aaahed over. Not intended to put the ZL1 down or start a fight but think of the real possibilies this systems affords a clean sheet car.
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06-30-2012, 10:35 PM | #2 |
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...wow, WoW, and WOW....LOL....face the facts...sell your car and come over to our side and get over the fact you have to spend so much time trying to defend your product.....LOLOL....
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06-30-2012, 10:43 PM | #3 |
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Never heard this one before.
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06-30-2012, 10:47 PM | #4 |
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thanks for passing through and you have yourself a very merry christmas
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06-30-2012, 10:49 PM | #5 |
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If they redesign the camaro to be like the viper for 55k count me in! In the meantime I'm waiting for my blue ray metallic zl1, which may take a few months. I will buy which ever comes out first!
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06-30-2012, 10:56 PM | #6 |
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"Not trying to put the ZL1 down" Then completely call's it a piece...
The ZL1 is lacking in power.... That is it's downfall. Certainly not handling or braking. It really doesn't help that it's on a sedan chassis, the car is massive. |
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06-30-2012, 11:50 PM | #8 |
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Ferrari adopted the MRC system from GM not the other way around. The ZR1 developed the MRCII system and then it was further refined by Cadillac for the CTS-V which was initial development for the MRCIII on the ZL1. Ferrari took the technology they learned from Cadillac on the MRCII and incorporated it into the 458 Italia. Its still a version of the MRCII so even they are behind the 8 ball compared to the MRCIII on the ZL1. Anywho...thanks for stopping by just to start a fight.
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"....Pathetic use for such amazing technology......." I see. So -- you've driven a ZL1 for how many miles? And you've helped to engineer/design how many different vehicles? You are treading on very thin ice, my equine friend. You do not have to be a Camaro Enthusiast to be on this site - but I take exception to 'pathetic use'
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07-01-2012, 12:05 AM | #10 |
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Sounds like just a little jealously that his arch rival has
Such a piece of art, such that makes a great car a super car. It's just a shame that people can't be happy for everyone that Enjoys a certain brand. I'm not upset that fords car is faster , but at am pleased with my product And knowing what I know about the performance of both cars still would make the same choice. I am GM loyal and just don't care for the other products Available , not any of them. It's a choice ,it's my choice. There are several brands that go above and beyond the quality and price Of both of these cars. To be able to afford a car that brings the performance And engineering that the ZL1 brings is simply magnificent . |
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07-01-2012, 12:16 AM | #12 |
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The ZL1 is a heavy car and IMHO needed the Magnetic Ride suspension to simultaneously pull duty as a comfortable daily driver and also a major trackday weapon. That is why I bought the ZL1 over the GT500 as I could have easily afforded the extra $3k for the electronically adjustable bilstein dampers on the Mustang, but they still don't have the complete duality of the ZL1's 3rd gen magnetic ride system. I will admit the ZL1 could use more Horsepower but as I've said in many other post, the ZL1 has to slot in somewhere between the base corvette and the top notch ZR1...since the Corvette was and always will be Chevy's main sports car.
I hope GM incorporates this latest 3rd gen technology into the C7 corvette (in fact I'd bet my life that they will ) and I'm sure a clean sheet design car such as the C7 which is lighter and more nimble will benefit from the technology but that isn't to say the ZL1 (which is the best camaro ever) shouldn't have been given such equipment |
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