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alex33x · 03-30-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc

How are you dealing with the speedometer? Are you able to recalibrate it for the new wheel size?

This is really easy to do, its so easy its not worth pedders mentioning it.

Because you can do it with any tuner, and you dont really need to have any knowledge in tuning, you just scroll down and you can set your speedometer to the wheel size you have.

mws444 · 03-30-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

We moved to production, but I want to hold off on an announcement until we are closer to a ship date. This is a very special project to me. They have been years in the making. I expect them to ship on my birthday

Well I hope it is soon so I can help you celebrate!

Figure I can be the test car for the second set....bet you are already running them.

JusticePete · 03-30-2010, 12:32 PM

My birthday ios getting very close...

RichJ. · 03-30-2010, 12:54 PM

If you like the wheels on Pete's Camaro we will get them for you. In fact we have a set of the Forge Line wheels with Potenza RE11 tires mounted on them at our shop now. We are waiting for the weather to break. Then the plan is to do a base car test at the track, then install the Pedders Track II XA kit and wheels and then take the Camaro to the track again.

JusticePete · 06-22-2010, 06:26 PM

The RE-11 Brigestones are holding up amazingly well. We have almost 10K on them and I keep saying I'll replace them after the next track session. We'll I am driving them to the GM Nationals this weekend and plan on using them for one more track session.

This is directly related to the stability of the ZETA II chassis and Pedders suspension components. The more stable the platform the longer the tires last because they are not squirming and scrubbing away tread as you drive. Please stop by the ProCharger booth to check out the tread wear -- even with a very aggressive alignment.

JusticePete · 08-31-2010, 05:48 PM

The Bridgestone RE-11s gave up the ghost at just under 12K. The rear were good for another track session, but the front inners were close to cords because of the just over 2 degrees of negative camber and total 1 degree of toe out we run

Think about that for a minute. 12k with these ridiculous alignment specifications! If I could rotate front to rear (I can't as the offsets are different) we could easily have extended the life to 15K or more.

The more stable your suspension is (Pedders bushes, coilovers and bars keep the 5th Gen suspension well controlled) the longer you will be able to run your expensive performance tires, even with aggressive alignment settings.

M6HuggerSS · 09-06-2010, 04:20 PM

wow, what a wealth of info this thread has become...

so my first question is will PEDDERS be releasing a suspension kit that will be needed to run this same wheel and tire combo..
i am very interested in this set-up, and would hope that it could be had with just springs, swqays and bushings...

OldJedi · 09-06-2010, 08:42 PM

Pete, after reading this thread over again, how much of a handling difference will be made to a stock SS Camaro in your opinion, by just switching from the stock 245/20's & 275/20's to 275/19 Fronts & 305/19's Rears? Before any coilovers, bushings and sway bars are added.

JusticePete · 09-07-2010, 12:56 PM

Great question.

Understeer will be reduced. The car will be more planted with superior rubber. The 305/30/19s up front will cause the front end to search because of the compliance in the springs, dampers and radius bushes. You will notice more body lean and roll because the grip will have increased and you'll be taking the same corner faster. The suspension will struggle to keep the front rubber planted because once again you'll be able to operate at higher speeds and the OE dampers and coils are a bit light for this wheel and tire fitment.

It will be better, but not maximised for the new wheels and rubber.

JusticePete · 09-07-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by M6HuggerSS

wow, what a wealth of info this thread has become...

so my first question is will PEDDERS be releasing a suspension kit that will be needed to run this same wheel and tire combo..
i am very interested in this set-up, and would hope that it could be had with just springs, sways and bushings...

Yes we are and some of the components are now GMPP products. You can order the Justice Package through your Pedders Suspension Specialist, your local GM Dealer or Pedders USA. All of the components are available individually as well.

M6HuggerSS · 09-07-2010, 07:00 PM

Great news... so is the JUSTICE package refering to the suspension, or the wheel tire combo or BOTH?

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Yes we are and some of the components are now GMPP products. You can order the Justice Package through your Pedders Suspension Specialist, your local GM Dealer or Pedders USA. All of the components are available individually as well.

JusticePete · 09-07-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M6HuggerSS

Great news... so is the JUSTICE package refering to the suspension, or the wheel tire combo or BOTH?

Suspension. Most Pedders Dealers got hooked up with Forgeline after our first track session so you can get your wheels from them when you order your Justice Package. Not all are Bridgestone Dealers, but that should be no issue as they all work together. If you need help arranging a complete package feel free to give me a call.

OldJedi · 09-07-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Great question.

Understeer will be reduced. The car will be more planted with superior rubber. The 305/30/19s up front will cause the front end to search because of the compliance in the springs, dampers and radius bushes. You will notice more body lean and roll because the grip will have increased and you'll be taking the same corner faster. The suspension will struggle to keep the front rubber planted because once again you'll be able to operate at higher speeds and the OE dampers and coils are a bit light for this wheel and tire fitment.

It will be better, but not maximised for the new wheels and rubber.

Thanks Pete, I really appreciate the expert advise.

JusticePete · 09-30-2010, 10:53 AM

I was over in the tire section of the forum answering a few questions about wheel and tire size. This thread answers a lot of those questions so I decided to remind people it is here as a resource for more than wheel and tire selection.

09-06-2010, 04:20 PM	#147
M6HuggerSS Drives: Crane Truck Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 340	wow, what a wealth of info this thread has become... so my first question is will PEDDERS be releasing a suspension kit that will be needed to run this same wheel and tire combo.. i am very interested in this set-up, and would hope that it could be had with just springs, swqays and bushings... __________________ 1998 Z28 M6 SOLD :( 315rwhp (3500lbs) 1999 HUGGER SS SOLD :( 400rwhp (3375lbs) 2002 YELLOW Z06 SOLD :( 360rwhp (3040lbs) 2013 CAMARO ZL1 COMMING SOON

09-06-2010, 08:42 PM	#148
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	Pete, after reading this thread over again, how much of a handling difference will be made to a stock SS Camaro in your opinion, by just switching from the stock 245/20's & 275/20's to 275/19 Fronts & 305/19's Rears? Before any coilovers, bushings and sway bars are added. __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1!

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