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BowtieGuy · 10-20-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZcamaro

If I am not mistaken....isn't you rbeloved roots style blower also causing parasitic drag by being belt driven?

Yes it does, but that loss can be as low as one horsepower with todays super efficient twin screw designs. The centrifugal is just the least ergonomic of the three, since it actually combines the downsides of both of the other two. Any serious drag racer would use either roots or turbo.

Wm Holden · 10-20-2008, 02:18 PM

This is the APS twin turbo system against the maggie...

do you race 0-90 or 40 to 140?

800hp vs 600hp...but who wins the 8th?

Wm vs LoBoost

same race different angle

The_Stache · 10-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Personnally I like whipples...(oops Im giving myself away..) Lower intake temps = better reliability in the engine bay..

Oh and screws/roots have gone WAY down on the parasitic loss through new tech over the last 10 years.. I believe the new 3.7L whipple is down to 5HP / 10lbs of boost...

I will always say this though... its the same with audio systems.. it ALL depends on what type of racing your doing (or music your listening to). A well built purpose system will ALWAYS outperform a well built system of any other type.

ZZcamaro · 10-20-2008, 09:20 PM

Thank you.....
It all depends on the type of driving you want this for, and the build of the system.
If you have a crappy built system why waste your money.

I am still looking to get in touch with Magnuson, they are terrible in getting in touch with a new prospective dealer like myself...I am going ot try again...
The maggie would be easy to work with since we could develop our own package around it!!
Procharger is interested, and I know a company who builds custom turbo kits whom is interested...
Will keep you all posted. Just PM me if you are interested.

JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR · 10-20-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

Personnally I like whipples...(oops Im giving myself away..) Lower intake temps = better reliability in the engine bay..

Oh and screws/roots have gone WAY down on the parasitic loss through new tech over the last 10 years.. I believe the new 3.7L whipple is down to 5HP / 10lbs of boost...

I will always say this though... its the same with audio systems.. it ALL depends on what type of racing your doing (or music your listening to). A well built purpose system will ALWAYS outperform a well built system of any other type.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZcamaro

Thank you.....
It all depends on the type of driving you want this for, and the build of the system.
If you have a crappy built system why waste your money.

I am still looking to get in touch with Magnuson, they are terrible in getting in touch with a new prospective dealer like myself...I am going ot try again...
The maggie would be easy to work with since we could develop our own package around it!!
Procharger is interested, and I know a company who builds custom turbo kits whom is interested...
Will keep you all posted. Just PM me if you are interested.

Just as I said earlier Guys. Either way...I'm really leaning towards a procharger since I'll be driving my Camaro 4-5 days a week. IMO they're more streetable than roots/twin screws.

JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR · 10-20-2008, 11:38 PM

If not ProCharger then I'll be getting a Magnuson. But I'm gonna get my internals upgraded before forced induction

BowtieGuy · 10-21-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR

If not ProCharger then I'll be getting a Magnuson. But I'm gonna get my internals upgraded before forced induction

Good call. Can never be too safe with this kind of investment.

Robin Lawrence · 10-23-2008, 06:14 PM

Harrop has a TVS 2300 for the LS3. It's not Camaro Specific but I am going to make it work.

They already have kits for the smaller blowers in the G8. Since the G8 and Camaro are both ZETA platforms it would be interesting to see how similar the setup.

Robin

Wm Holden · 10-23-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR

Just as I said earlier Guys. Either way...I'm really leaning towards a procharger since I'll be driving my Camaro 4-5 days a week. IMO they're more streetable than roots/twin screws.

ok...edumacate me plz.....I don't get the enlarged part of the statement...
because frankly...that's backwards.

Rekt · 10-23-2008, 09:58 PM

Just a quick question for you all:

Does anybody think Whipple will make a twin screw blower for the Camaro? I don't want a roots blower like the Maggy because they are not nearly as efficient. If not, then its going to be turbo or a centri.

Matrix · 10-23-2008, 11:48 PM

Wudnt a turbo be better HP gain than a SC? I though SC suck about 35% poer and prolly give out 40% back. ie a small overall gain. Please correct me if Im wrong. Wudnt $$ be better spent on a turbo which would give better gains/$???

headpunter · 10-24-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekt

Just a quick question for you all:

Does anybody think Whipple will make a twin screw blower for the Camaro? I don't want a roots blower like the Maggy because they are not nearly as efficient. If not, then its going to be turbo or a centri.

the TVS maggie's will sink a whipple hands down.

Robin Lawrence · 10-24-2008, 08:59 AM

I am going to stuff this one in mine at some point.

Robin

Rekt · 10-24-2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

the TVS maggie's will sink a whipple hands down.

But I thought they were still a roots blower, and not a true twin screw?

10-20-2008, 02:18 PM	#44
Wm Holden Yes, that's my real name. Drives: 2005 LS2 600hp GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ventura, ca. Posts: 770	This is the APS twin turbo system against the maggie... do you race 0-90 or 40 to 140? 800hp vs 600hp...but who wins the 8th? Wm vs LoBoost same race different angle __________________ Magnuson 112HH supercharger at 7.5 psi (Virtual 9.0 liter) 600hp 1 of 2 torrid/red int /A4/05 555r 275/40/R17's Nitto Extreme Drags 1.7 60 ft Car runs high 11's No other mods. I got the first 112HH Magnuson blower ported for a GTO. Now it appears it was also one of the last.... http://www.ribbonprinting.com http://www.personalizedawarenessribbons.com

10-20-2008, 02:45 PM	#45
The_Stache SoCal Race Team #13 Drives: 2010 1SS:RS:LS3:SW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,803 View My Garage	Personnally I like whipples...(oops Im giving myself away..) Lower intake temps = better reliability in the engine bay.. Oh and screws/roots have gone WAY down on the parasitic loss through new tech over the last 10 years.. I believe the new 3.7L whipple is down to 5HP / 10lbs of boost... I will always say this though... its the same with audio systems.. it ALL depends on what type of racing your doing (or music your listening to). A well built purpose system will ALWAYS outperform a well built system of any other type. __________________ A.K.A - Diarmadhi (old handle) - So much to do.. So little money Owner : Fast-Stache Industries LLC

10-23-2008, 06:14 PM	#50
Robin Lawrence Drives: 2010 Camaro 69 Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Galesburg, Illinois Posts: 447	Harrop has a TVS 2300 for the LS3. It's not Camaro Specific but I am going to make it work. They already have kits for the smaller blowers in the G8. Since the G8 and Camaro are both ZETA platforms it would be interesting to see how similar the setup. Robin __________________ Holley Performance Products

10-23-2008, 11:48 PM	#53
Matrix Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS & Magnum R/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,520	Wudnt a turbo be better HP gain than a SC? I though SC suck about 35% poer and prolly give out 40% back. ie a small overall gain. Please correct me if Im wrong. Wudnt $$ be better spent on a turbo which would give better gains/$??? __________________ SIM Camaro 2010 V8-2SS/RS-A6!!+

10-24-2008, 08:59 AM	#55
Robin Lawrence Drives: 2010 Camaro 69 Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Galesburg, Illinois Posts: 447	I am going to stuff this one in mine at some point. Robin __________________ Holley Performance Products

10-20-2008, 09:20 PM	#46
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,700	Thank you..... It all depends on the type of driving you want this for, and the build of the system. If you have a crappy built system why waste your money. I am still looking to get in touch with Magnuson, they are terrible in getting in touch with a new prospective dealer like myself...I am going ot try again... The maggie would be easy to work with since we could develop our own package around it!! Procharger is interested, and I know a company who builds custom turbo kits whom is interested... Will keep you all posted. Just PM me if you are interested.

10-20-2008, 11:38 PM	#48
JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR SSiCk MeMbEr!!! Drives: HeAviLy MoDDeD 2010 SS CaMaRo! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MeRRiLLviLLe, IN Posts: 233	If not ProCharger then I'll be getting a Magnuson. But I'm gonna get my internals upgraded before forced induction

10-23-2008, 09:58 PM	#52
Rekt Drives: Z34 370Z Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 149	Just a quick question for you all: Does anybody think Whipple will make a twin screw blower for the Camaro? I don't want a roots blower like the Maggy because they are not nearly as efficient. If not, then its going to be turbo or a centri.

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