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BullF-16 · 01-09-2014, 09:27 PM

Simple question, yes or no for an 1100 rwhp street car that will see the occasional road course and spirited back road driving in north Tx. Will be twin turbo running PTE6766s at 20-22 psi and about 1100rwhp

Been looking at the Eboost 2 for simplicity but am eyeing the AMS-1000 since it seems to be a great unit with more features than i will probably use. But its nice knowing those features are there if needed.

So, yes or no on boost controller. I always thought the right foot was a pretty good boost controller

Detoxx03 · 01-09-2014, 09:44 PM

Be crazy not to have one. No sense in going turbo if you're not gonna use one. That's won of the perks of a turbo setup.

acowherd · 01-09-2014, 09:49 PM

Heck yes. It would be great for dialing in or out of boost.

Heck I am thinking of throwing on a waste gate and boost controller on my D1sc set up

yotaman96 · 01-09-2014, 11:14 PM

Installed mine a few days ago. Haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Hoping I hooked everything up properly.

Padre · 01-09-2014, 11:22 PM

On my D1SC wastegate, I won a True Street index with three runs averaged to within 0.007 of my target.

So, any type of dial-in, it really helps.

Not to mention, with your setup, you might want to have presets for "Sane" and "Insane".

Padre

Chris82xx · 01-09-2014, 11:41 PM

Without the boost controller, you know where you're gonna stand in the power sense. You don't know how tame it'll be on the streets. With the boost controller you can dial the boost down to a more manageable level for every day driving. I would get it.

blake-b · 01-10-2014, 02:00 AM

Yes, definitely get one Bull. Eboost2 here also.

BullF-16 · 01-10-2014, 09:39 AM

Yeah, I'm definitely going to have one. For some reason my shop is recommending against one, or saying it isn't necessary. If it makes the setup better than i think it is necessary

Now time to decide between Eboost 2 or AMS-1000 and get smart on the system

Unobtainium · 01-10-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BullF-16

Yeah, I'm definitely going to have one. For some reason my shop is recommending against one, or saying it isn't necessary. If it makes the setup better than i think it is necessary

Now time to decide between Eboost 2 or AMS-1000 and get smart on the system

I looked at both of those too, and decided on the HKS EVC 6 after talking to a few turbo guys and dyno shops. I'm sure the AMS1000 is killer, but I liked what the HKS offered.
Having a boost controller helps everywhere. It can make the car way more user friendly.

grocerygetter · 01-10-2014, 10:13 AM

the nicer electronic ones can even help spool time. Tested this theory on my Turbo buick years ago. Ended up using a HKS EVC EZ. Spool time was way less that with a halman type or turbonetics type manual set controller.

Unobtainium · 01-10-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

the nicer electronic ones can even help spool time. Tested this theory on my Turbo buick years ago. Ended up using a HKS EVC EZ. Spool time was way less that with a halman type or turbonetics type manual set controller.

Yes, one of the biggest advantages for sure.

CyberPredator · 01-10-2014, 10:48 AM

I have the eboost 2 and love it. Also I wouldn't wan't to be stuck at 1100 whp all the time.

dreksnot · 01-10-2014, 11:15 AM

My understanding is the minimum setting you can set your boost is your wastegate spring pressure. If you're wanting less boost then you have to change out those springs to lessor ones (nominal cost). You can then set your boost controller to a less boost value (only down the the spring pressure), and all the way up to your boost controller/turbos output boost capability. Gives you the range then.

I had to do that with my Tru-Boost controller to get a "wifey" mode in there.

Unreal · 01-10-2014, 11:23 AM

Not quite like that. You can usually go ~2.5 spring pressure depending on system, etc. You can't put in 5psi springs then hope to hold 30psi with a boost controller. Typically I would go with the rule of 2x. Run 12psi springs and have good control up to 24psi. Run 7 to 14psi or so as a general rule of thumb. That is way conservative though. 7psi springs probably fine to 18-19psi.

01-09-2014, 09:27 PM	#1
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	Boost controller or no boost controller??? Simple question, yes or no for an 1100 rwhp street car that will see the occasional road course and spirited back road driving in north Tx. Will be twin turbo running PTE6766s at 20-22 psi and about 1100rwhp Been looking at the Eboost 2 for simplicity but am eyeing the AMS-1000 since it seems to be a great unit with more features than i will probably use. But its nice knowing those features are there if needed. So, yes or no on boost controller. I always thought the right foot was a pretty good boost controller __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

01-09-2014, 09:44 PM	#2
Detoxx03 ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™ Drives: 2008 Corvette Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Woodward Avenue Posts: 876 View My Garage	Be crazy not to have one. No sense in going turbo if you're not gonna use one. That's won of the perks of a turbo setup. __________________ D1SC Procharger 932/758 on E85 A Futral Motorsports Creation https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic

01-09-2014, 09:49 PM	#3
acowherd Drives: 2010 2ss/RS 4l80. 2009 2500 HD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mid MO Posts: 1,826	Heck yes. It would be great for dialing in or out of boost. Heck I am thinking of throwing on a waste gate and boost controller on my D1sc set up __________________ Follow along as we build and race this 2010 Camaro! https://www.facebook.com/pages/FNSS-...75028626000379 FNSS Racing!

01-09-2014, 11:14 PM	#4
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	Installed mine a few days ago. Haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Hoping I hooked everything up properly. __________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins

01-09-2014, 11:22 PM	#5
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	On my D1SC wastegate, I won a True Street index with three runs averaged to within 0.007 of my target. So, any type of dial-in, it really helps. Not to mention, with your setup, you might want to have presets for "Sane" and "Insane". Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

01-09-2014, 11:41 PM	#6
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	Without the boost controller, you know where you're gonna stand in the power sense. You don't know how tame it'll be on the streets. With the boost controller you can dial the boost down to a more manageable level for every day driving. I would get it. __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

01-10-2014, 02:00 AM	#7
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Yes, definitely get one Bull. Eboost2 here also. Attached Images Last edited by blake-b; 01-10-2014 at 02:51 AM.

01-10-2014, 09:39 AM	#8
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	Yeah, I'm definitely going to have one. For some reason my shop is recommending against one, or saying it isn't necessary. If it makes the setup better than i think it is necessary Now time to decide between Eboost 2 or AMS-1000 and get smart on the system __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

01-10-2014, 10:13 AM	#10
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	the nicer electronic ones can even help spool time. Tested this theory on my Turbo buick years ago. Ended up using a HKS EVC EZ. Spool time was way less that with a halman type or turbonetics type manual set controller. __________________ -John S.

01-10-2014, 10:48 AM	#12
CyberPredator 50 Shades of Prey Drives: TT/SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Between 10 and 20 PSI Posts: 777	I have the eboost 2 and love it. Also I wouldn't wan't to be stuck at 1100 whp all the time. __________________ Futral Motorsports built and tuned

01-10-2014, 11:15 AM	#13
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,603 View My Garage	My understanding is the minimum setting you can set your boost is your wastegate spring pressure. If you're wanting less boost then you have to change out those springs to lessor ones (nominal cost). You can then set your boost controller to a less boost value (only down the the spring pressure), and all the way up to your boost controller/turbos output boost capability. Gives you the range then. I had to do that with my Tru-Boost controller to get a "wifey" mode in there. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

01-10-2014, 11:23 AM	#14
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Not quite like that. You can usually go ~2.5 spring pressure depending on system, etc. You can't put in 5psi springs then hope to hold 30psi with a boost controller. Typically I would go with the rule of 2x. Run 12psi springs and have good control up to 24psi. Run 7 to 14psi or so as a general rule of thumb. That is way conservative though. 7psi springs probably fine to 18-19psi. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp