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ronniels3 · 03-18-2013, 10:06 PM

I will be ordering a cam here shortly and after hearing a bunch of cams in person and you tube I have narrowed it down to the following 2: Lethal Racing Nighfury cam or Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam. I have ARH 1 7/8" long tubes with cats and some intake not sure which one i want yet. Future mods may include 3:91 gears. I am looking for around 450-475 RWH with good daily driveability. This is strictly for the street. I don't drag at the track anymore. By the way I have an LS3. How do the characteristics of these 2 cams compare to each other? I have spoken to both shops and feel really comfortable ordering from either one. Most likely I will do the install myself. Will probably have Matt from FSP tune car or Paul at Tork or the guys at Lashway. Tell me your thoughts please.

Thanks

Ronnie

SSMickey · 03-18-2013, 10:29 PM

Well, of course I'm biased, but love my Vengeance cam. Nice lope at idle, which is set at 750. Will buck a bit below 1200 without a load as will any cam. Great power and pulls real hard above 2000. This cam is so tame, my wife will drive the car where ever and when ever she wants. I'm sure a lot of people will post about there Night Fury experience. Best thing is to drive cars that have both cams in them if possible. I'm going to do gears soon, but don't feel pressed to do them. Loss of low end was very minor.

Unknown SSRS · 03-18-2013, 10:43 PM

I love my night fury.. barely any change in drivability from stock.usual bucking at low rpms nothing bad. I love it 8)

Medi0cr3 · 03-18-2013, 11:22 PM

Lots of passes with nf on the track. Love it!

ronniels3 · 03-19-2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SSMickey

Well, of course I'm biased, but love my Vengeance cam. Nice lope at idle, which is set at 750. Will buck a bit below 1200 without a load as will any cam. Great power and pulls real hard above 2000. This cam is so tame, my wife will drive the car where ever and when ever she wants. I'm sure a lot of people will post about there Night Fury experience. Best thing is to drive cars that have both cams in them if possible. I'm going to do gears soon, but don't feel pressed to do them. Loss of low end was very minor.

Sounds good to me. Do you think the gears will help much?

ronniels3 · 03-19-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Medi0cr3

Lots of passes with nf on the track. Love it!

That pass of 12.93 I hope that was stock and not with all those mods.

SSMickey · 03-19-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ronniels3

Sounds good to me. Do you think the gears will help much?

Gears will help you get moving better as these cars are so heavy. Not sure how much it will help at the track because I have never been. I'm sure someone else can chime in on that. I get 23 hwy and around 14 city for mileage. I'm told 3.91 will raise the RPM's by about 180 at 70mph.

SSDan · 03-19-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SSMickey

Well, of course I'm biased, but love my Vengeance cam. Nice lope at idle, which is set at 750. Will buck a bit below 1200 without a load as will any cam. Great power and pulls real hard above 2000. This cam is so tame, my wife will drive the car where ever and when ever she wants. I'm sure a lot of people will post about there Night Fury experience. Best thing is to drive cars that have both cams in them if possible. I'm going to do gears soon, but don't feel pressed to do them. Loss of low end was very minor.

OP - I'm a tad biased too but my Vengeance stage II cam has been great for 7500 miles and it hits all your requirements. In fairness the NF cam is all the rage on this forum right now so it can't be ignored. I've just not had the chance to drive one or even hear one in person yet. So from personal experience Vengeance is top notch and this cam makes strong tq across the power curve. Attached is my dyno sheet for the details. Good luck and in the end I think either cam will do you right.

litle88 · 03-19-2013, 11:27 AM

Go with a Lethal shot of "Cam" !!

Get the NF !!

Just my.2 bud. It's tried at the track and dyno and FI applications.

Nightmare2012 · 03-19-2013, 11:32 AM

I am.working on my night fury install as we speak and i will post up as soon as i get everything up and tunning.

DuskSS · 03-19-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Go with a Lethal shot of "Cam" !!

Get the NF !!

Just my.2 bud. It's tried at the track and dyno and FI applications.

+1
2 days left stock for me....

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mp51998 · 03-19-2013, 12:55 PM

NF in both of our cars. Wife drives hers pretty much daily. She loves it. First cammed car for both of us. Excellent customer service. Nothing but good things to day a out Lethal and their products.

ronniels3 · 03-19-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SSMickey

Gears will help you get moving better as these cars are so heavy. Not sure how much it will help at the track because I have never been. I'm sure someone else can chime in on that. I get 23 hwy and around 14 city for mileage. I'm told 3.91 will raise the RPM's by about 180 at 70mph.

Thats really good mileage you are getting with that cam. Thats about what I get stock. LOL

ronniels3 · 03-19-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mp51998

NF in both of our cars. Wife drives hers pretty much daily. She loves it. First cammed car for both of us. Excellent customer service. Nothing but good things to day a out Lethal and their products.

Have either one of you guys had driveability issues? I had a huge cam in the past on a stalled automatic C5 vette and I hated the drivability issues.

03-18-2013, 10:06 PM	#1
ronniels3 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 205	Cam Help Night Fury or Vengeance Stage 2 I will be ordering a cam here shortly and after hearing a bunch of cams in person and you tube I have narrowed it down to the following 2: Lethal Racing Nighfury cam or Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam. I have ARH 1 7/8" long tubes with cats and some intake not sure which one i want yet. Future mods may include 3:91 gears. I am looking for around 450-475 RWH with good daily driveability. This is strictly for the street. I don't drag at the track anymore. By the way I have an LS3. How do the characteristics of these 2 cams compare to each other? I have spoken to both shops and feel really comfortable ordering from either one. Most likely I will do the install myself. Will probably have Matt from FSP tune car or Paul at Tork or the guys at Lashway. Tell me your thoughts please. Thanks Ronnie

03-18-2013, 10:29 PM	#2
SSMickey Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Columbia S.C. Posts: 1,455 View My Garage	Well, of course I'm biased, but love my Vengeance cam. Nice lope at idle, which is set at 750. Will buck a bit below 1200 without a load as will any cam. Great power and pulls real hard above 2000. This cam is so tame, my wife will drive the car where ever and when ever she wants. I'm sure a lot of people will post about there Night Fury experience. Best thing is to drive cars that have both cams in them if possible. I'm going to do gears soon, but don't feel pressed to do them. Loss of low end was very minor. __________________ ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System

03-18-2013, 11:22 PM	#4
Medi0cr3 Untamed Performance EPT Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El Paso Posts: 372	Lots of passes with nf on the track. Love it! __________________ Night Fury Cam Borla LT Headers and Borla Cat Back ATAK 9in. diff with 4.11's, DSS Axles, and Alum Shaft Hurst Short-Shifter; Ideal Garage Master Cylinder H-E Street Slayer Twin Billet Clutch BMR: Adjustable; Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Extreme Sway Bar. BMR Subframe Bushings. Strange Rear Coilovers and mounts Tuned by Rhino79

03-19-2013, 11:27 AM	#9
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Go with a Lethal shot of "Cam" !! Get the NF !! Just my.2 bud. It's tried at the track and dyno and FI applications. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-18-2013, 10:43 PM	#3
Unknown SSRS Drives: 2011 VR SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Long island,NY (nassau) Posts: 252	I love my night fury.. barely any change in drivability from stock.usual bucking at low rpms nothing bad. I love it 8)

03-19-2013, 11:32 AM	#10
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	I am.working on my night fury install as we speak and i will post up as soon as i get everything up and tunning.

03-19-2013, 12:55 PM	#12
mp51998 Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: S. Texas Posts: 1,817	NF in both of our cars. Wife drives hers pretty much daily. She loves it. First cammed car for both of us. Excellent customer service. Nothing but good things to day a out Lethal and their products.