Interesting Article About the Evolution of the Camaro - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Jimmy · 01-28-2009, 04:20 PM

Model bloat?

http://jalopnik.com/5140813/model-bl...37-model-years

silentbob · 01-28-2009, 04:31 PM

It's true, the new Camaro is so heavy that you should only get the SS if you are looking for performance. People have made a big deal out of the V6 having 300hp, but in reality it's only a tad better than a V6 mustang or Challenger.

Parker · 01-28-2009, 07:31 PM

Open the hood of an old car then a new one and you can easily see why there is so much more weight. If you don't want the extra parts pull 'em out and sell 'em. AC, 9 speaker stereo, emission parts, air bags and clinchers, sound deadening material, and 100s of feet of wire add up to a lot of weight.

*DGthe3* · 01-28-2009, 08:56 PM

Interesting, since I have read that 1st gens weighed from 3300 (ZL1) 3800 (SS 396). Perhaps the trans am spec Z28's were below 3000 but not the production cars.

SoFlaZ · 01-29-2009, 12:30 PM

Jalopnik is at it again trying to bash our car, but they do have a point.

The original Camaro was made of steel and other heavy materials according to todays standards and was even below the 3000 pound mark. Even with todays "light weight" materials the car is still the heaviest its ever been, BUT it gets it BEST gas mileage of any other gen. Though it may tie the 4th gen. It's all the safety standards and accessories that are killing the weight.

http://jalopnik.com/5140813/model-bl...37-model-years

1_2Many · 01-29-2009, 12:32 PM

Re-post http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12462

SoFlaZ · 01-29-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1_2Many

Re-post http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12462

Sorry, You can move/delete. I tried a search but came up with nothing.

PQ · 01-29-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentbob

It's true, the new Camaro is so heavy that you should only get the SS if you are looking for performance. People have made a big deal out of the V6 having 300hp, but in reality it's only a tad better than a V6 mustang or Challenger.

Remains to be seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Interesting, since I have read that 1st gens weighed from 3300 (ZL1) 3800 (SS 396). Perhaps the trans am spec Z28's were below 3000 but not the production cars.

You've peaked my interest. Seems I have seen that as well, but can't remember where. I shall have to do a bit of research.

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-29-2009, 02:21 PM

yeah, but how many of the first gens had dual air bags? anti-lock brakes? pcm? wiring? etc. all the little stuff that we have for creature comforts adds up on weight.

the added benefit of safety adds to the added weight of the car.

Rallysport · 01-29-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

yeah, but how many of the first gens had dual air bags? anti-lock brakes? pcm? wiring? etc. all the little stuff that we have for creature comforts adds up on weight.

the added benefit of safety adds to the added weight of the car.

Yep. Not to mention all the stuff they employ to make the car bulletproof in the event of a crash. It's no wonder these cars weigh so much today.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-29-2009, 06:18 PM

merged.

How many of them had a robust IRS? And...37 years of steadily increasing structural mandates...
/nuff said.

Interesting article. But frankly, you don't see people complaining about BMW M3s, M5s, or Audi A5s, S5s, or R8s (yup...).

If it performs...who the hell cares.

And this car PERFORMS!

01-28-2009, 04:20 PM	#1
Jimmy Drives: 2010 2SS RS Camaro Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 233	Interesting Article About the Evolution of the Camaro Model bloat? http://jalopnik.com/5140813/model-bl...37-model-years

01-28-2009, 08:56 PM	#4
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Interesting, since I have read that 1st gens weighed from 3300 (ZL1) 3800 (SS 396). Perhaps the trans am spec Z28's were below 3000 but not the production cars. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

01-29-2009, 12:30 PM	#5
SoFlaZ Drives: 2013 SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: WPB FL Posts: 947 View My Garage	Model Bloat!?!-Jalopnik Jalopnik is at it again trying to bash our car, but they do have a point. The original Camaro was made of steel and other heavy materials according to todays standards and was even below the 3000 pound mark. Even with todays "light weight" materials the car is still the heaviest its ever been, BUT it gets it BEST gas mileage of any other gen. Though it may tie the 4th gen. It's all the safety standards and accessories that are killing the weight. http://jalopnik.com/5140813/model-bl...37-model-years

01-29-2009, 12:32 PM	#6
1_2Many Drives: 2008 Suzuki SX4 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 785 View My Garage	Re-post http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12462 __________________ We are the early orderers...we are GM's voluntary guinea pigs and their free source of feedback. How will we be thanked?

01-29-2009, 06:18 PM	#11
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	merged. How many of them had a robust IRS? And...37 years of steadily increasing structural mandates... /nuff said. Interesting article. But frankly, you don't see people complaining about BMW M3s, M5s, or Audi A5s, S5s, or R8s (yup...). If it performs...who the hell cares. And this car PERFORMS! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

01-28-2009, 04:31 PM	#2
silentbob Drives: 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 17	It's true, the new Camaro is so heavy that you should only get the SS if you are looking for performance. People have made a big deal out of the V6 having 300hp, but in reality it's only a tad better than a V6 mustang or Challenger.

01-28-2009, 07:31 PM	#3
Parker Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 246 View My Garage	Open the hood of an old car then a new one and you can easily see why there is so much more weight. If you don't want the extra parts pull 'em out and sell 'em. AC, 9 speaker stereo, emission parts, air bags and clinchers, sound deadening material, and 100s of feet of wire add up to a lot of weight.

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