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But we know at the crank the 3.6 puts 312 down stock. Now when I had my stock dyno done, I was at 246 whp on a nice day with no humidity. Also generally there is no way a 3.6L v6 can produces 300+ WHP while naturally aspirated. Also Brake HP (BHP) is also a term to describe HP at the crank. After reading that quote, it was one of the reasons I came to the conclusion that the website is not talkin about WHP and the phone rep is not full knowledgeable, which can happen most times. Or whoever wrote that site up is a complete turd and screwed up the information LOL
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03-17-2011, 11:13 AM | #17 |
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Ok........just called and talked to their expert. And I told him what we were discussing and he realized why it was confusing for some people. They do mean 435 WHP but that's not the whole story.
I asked him info on doing the kit w/o changing the internals and he explained that we could run 3 to 4 lbs of boost with no problem, gaining about 40 BHP and 30 WHP. Which is probably not worth $5700 if Vince is able to tune. Now to get some real fun out of the kit, he recommended preping the internals to handle 6-7 lbs of boost, which would in turn give us 435 WHP. Now that would be fun But doing that prep would be $2500 on top of the cost of the kit and labor to install. Good info from those guys and seems like a very cool group of people working there, they just need to straighten out their webmaster
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That sounds like good info right there. As far as "prepping the internals," did the representative you spoke to elaborate on exactly what would be done for that $2500 price tag?
From what we've heard in the FI forums here, it sounds like the V6 drivetrain can handle the stress of about 400 RWHP; but, it would definitely be fun to push that a little farther.
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03-17-2011, 10:06 PM | #19 |
Yea I didn't know anyone even made beefed up internals for our engine... Also our engine being able to only handle 2-3lbs of boost stock just doesn't sound right.
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Yeah, I think I'd of had to question him futher. Sure seemed like running 4 to 5 lbs of boost is no problem for the turbos...and now with turbos guys are going for 7 or so. Might be too early to tell the longevity of these engines on 7+ lbs of boost, but it sure seems like 5 should be easy given the engine does have some forged parts already. Hrmmmmm....wish these guys would try another setup with Vince's tuning and keep it to just the bare bones and give us a kit at a competitive price (not like theres much competition yet though lol)
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03-24-2011, 02:49 PM | #21 |
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Had a very interesting conversation with Vince last night.
I showed him the D3 Supercharger we are discussing and repeated my convesation with the company to him. He thought it was weird they claimed that we would have to prep the engine to run 6-7 lbs of boost because there is a single turbo out in Hawaii running 9lbs!! Without swapping internals. So here's what I am thinking, we wait and see how the Hawaiian Single turbo does over the next year. If the car is in one piece afterwards, w/o major issues. Then I think those of us interested should try this option. Currently I don't have the cash anymore to spend $5700 on a mod. So I am going to wait. But I think this SC has serious potential on our engines at this point. And Vince is confident that he can tune our cars to work with this power adder.
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That's pretty awesome news from Vince. This makes me really lean toward the D3 supercharger as my FI solution.
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The turbo'd v6 in Hawaii has been running since last summer and he had to do some things to be able to run 9-lbs of boost(meth-injection, fuel upgrade?). http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91892
Let's not forget our motor has high compression for any type of boost/forced induction and there are ways of taking that out of the equation and vince's tune is probably the first step. Prepping the internals might just mean they want to cut compression. There are ways to keep it out of detonation and the tune is one of them.
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03-27-2011, 06:52 AM | #25 |
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We have a thread from ProCharger and Adkins........isn't anyone interested in trying the D3 out?
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I'm interested. I just can't spare the funds right now.
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FYI, they are still looking for a test fit car. From what I understand they had a car lined up but it backed out.
Jimmyh - lol come on man. You should know better then to say stuff like that, "They have screwed up alot too though." Don't believe all the BS you hear on the internet. There's tons of haters out there that talk mess to make themselves look better. I have seen some impressive cars come out of that building. I'd be willing to bet you a cheeseburger you got bad info . SCV6 |
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Damn if they were closer I would love to be a test car.
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