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Def some crazy stuff, glad its never happend in front of me. *knock on wood*
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07-14-2011, 10:50 AM | #86 |
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07-14-2011, 11:24 AM | #87 |
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Had to play a little bit of catch up since my last post. First, I want to acknowledge your fear/dislike of retreaded tires. So I don't want anyone to think that I'm just ignoring your opinions on the matter. But, I feel that people are solely focusing on the "cost savings" of recapping over virgin tires. Their also exists quite a few environmental reasons why retreads are preferred over virgin tires.
We know that retreads are used on fleet trucks, school buses, city buses, airplanes, etc. So if they are used on all of these different types of vehicles why do we not hear more about them? I'll give 250 internets to anyone whom can find me a news report involving a commercial airline tire's retread coming apart. Same thing applies to a city bus tire, or a school bus tire. All of these different vehicles use retreads, but we only see failure on fleet trucks (usually). Why? Because of improper maintenance and inadequate safety checks. If installed properly, and inflated correctly, a retread should have the same life if not longer life than a virgin tire. We should not be signing a petition to outlaw retreads, because I'm sorry but that won't happen any time soon. Due to trucker unions and the economical impact it would have on the free market, as I've brought up before. If you are looking to make a difference, and to solve this problem, you want to find a way to change how the trucking industry operates. More frequent safety checks, fines for improper equipment, etc. Something that would cause truckers to measure twice and cut once. Better safe than sorry. |
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If the argument is that retreads kill people and should be banned which I don’t agree with then ask yourself this. Why does your Camaro exceed all nationwide speed limits? Last I knew the highest speed limit in the country is 75 mph yet our Camaro’s can go double that. Doesn’t speed kill people to???
As far as inspections go. I am mandated by Federal Department of Transportation to an Inspection of all my units annually. My drivers are also mandated by the DOT to inspect their vehicle before they leave the yard and also when they park at the end of the day. DOT also has scales set up to inspect my vehicle and many local and state troopers are trained to do random DOT roadside inspections. All information of roadside inspections, crashes, audits, ect is public information. In fact they have an all new way of seeing how safe we are called CSA2010. I sure wish all vehicles were subject to as many rules and regulations as the trucking industry. As far as cost go. I can assure you that personal safety or lack thereof is not considered at least in my thinking when it comes to purchasing tires. I go by the philosophy that at anytime my wife or kids could be next to or following one my trucks at any time. The fact of the matter is it is extremely cost prohibitive for me to run virgin tires on my equipment and if properly maintained just as safe as a virgin tire. I highly doubt the majority of the people would accept a higher cost for goods and services to eliminate recap tires. If that were the case you would see more Made in the USA stickers and less outsourcing to other countries. Almost everything you purchase was on a truck at some point in its life.
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I finally clicked the link to the petition, was worse than I thought... no facts only opinion. Looks like something from CRASH or PATT (Trucker hate groups not unrelated to KKK or Black Panthers.) Quote:
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I've read all 89 posts in this thread. So far, I haven't seen a single statistic showing the number of people per year that die due to retread failures.
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Thanks for the correctionI am now thinking of moving to West Texas!!!
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07-14-2011, 02:43 PM | #93 |
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Don't do it. West Texas is the most boringest place ever. There's NOTHING there. Which is probably why they raised the limit there to 80mph on I-10 so people could get through the suck faster
That's interesting about the retread deaths in 2008, though. 72 people, huh? That's 6 people per month. Wow. What an epidemic...
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If it makes tires better - then I am behind it. Guess it could be written by a KKK members child as part of their third grade homework. Still works for me. Not sure who started the petition - im just glad its out there....
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Wow - she really wanted a kiss to duke of hazard a 4 foot wall. That coulda been really bad for everyone. good driving saved a life no doubt...
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So, you almost hit a piece of rubber one day, and now every vehicle with a retread on the road is a death trap waiting to happen?
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I used bing:
http://www.georgiatruckaccidentlawye...tor_trail.html And found a very similiar story that you seem to be sighting: http://www.georgiatruckaccidentlawye...tor_trail.html Or maybe you are citing this one: http://www.allbusiness.com/safety-ac...1449917-1.html You missed a BIG fact: * Approximately 68% of tire fragments were from retread tires and 18% were from original tread tires. The remaining 14% could not be determined. PS - welcome to the forums - we are normally a light hearted bunch. Early this week a retread tried to damage my Camaro so I am kinda in a vocal mode about that... Pps - I don't want to do away with retreads; I want to outlaw unsafe retreads. Let's fix the technology and keep the green benefits. I wanna save the landfills and reduce oil usage as much as the next guy. Quote:
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