What if I told you that all Pfadt parts were not gone for good?

[Apex Motorsports]

Solid Rear Cradle Mounts are ready!

[Str8_W8]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

Solid Rear Cradle Mounts are ready!

Please educate me on the solid ones vs stock or poly?

[2012LS3VERT]

Here is a thread with a video and some explanation. You can find more threads with information by searching "Pfadt solid cradle" http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...t+solid+cradle

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Str8_W8

Please educate me on the solid ones vs stock or poly?

Very simply, poly reduces rear cradle movement and solid eliminates it completely. With the rear cradle you can do a solid without much change in ride quality or sound but that doesn't necessarily mean you need it. For bolt on street applications poly is just fine but if you are adding a decent amount of power and like to hit the strip or track solid is definitely a good idea.

[Str8_W8]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

Very simply, poly reduces rear cradle movement and solid eliminates it completely. With the rear cradle you can do a solid without much change in ride quality or sound but that doesn't necessarily mean you need it. For bolt on street applications poly is just fine but if you are adding a decent amount of power and like to hit the strip or track solid is definitely a good idea.

This is the first time I've ever had an IRS car so its all new to me. I'm guessing it's the torque arm of the earlier Camaros. That bushing, when upgraded, can help with traction and handling. Is that close?

[2012LS3VERT]

Not exactly the same. I have a third gen also. The torque arm bushing helps by controlling the pinion angle. The bushings above work by controlling the movement of the whole subframe, as seen in the video posted in the other thread I linked to. The control arms in these cars are mounted on rubber bushings, inside a subframe with more rubber bushings. That equals a lot of potential movement under power. Mounting the subframe with solid mounts eliminates one of the deflection points. The corvette rear subframe is mounted solid instead of with rubber bushings for example.

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Str8_W8

This is the first time I've ever had an IRS car so its all new to me. I'm guessing it's the torque arm of the earlier Camaros. That bushing, when upgraded, can help with traction and handling. Is that close?

Yeah, it is similar. Basically the entire rear suspension and drivetrain bolts to the rear cradle and the rear cradle then bolts to the chassis. Any throttle or brake input or change in direction causes the bushings to flex. Poly reduces the flexing and solid eliminates it. Everything is more stable, direct and responsive.

[fly2hip8]

It just sucks i have to wait until i get a house. However doing that in my own garage will be a nice treat. But then again by the time i do Maybe the toe arms and trailing arms will be out to.

[CamaroTom]

32mm adjustable rear sway bar please.

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by ZL575BumbleBee

The Pfadt solid bushing was the single best upgrade ever. I also purchased the BMR rear dif bushings from Apex and the car is finally fun to drive.

I can't thank you Apex enough for all of there help !!!

That is what I am here for.

[Str8_W8]

Originally Posted by ZL575BumbleBee

The Pfadt solid bushing was the single best upgrade ever. I also purchased the BMR rear dif bushings from Apex and the car is finally fun to drive.

I can't thank you Apex enough for all of there help !!!

Why do you think it's the best? What improved?

I go on vacation in August and will be buying a few things from Chase when I get back.

[2012LS3VERT]

I installed only the solid cradle bushings, without any other bushings. Night and day difference in stability, it no longer feels as though the rear end is flopping around back there around a corner when under power. The cradle bushings didn't solve my wheelhop problem by themselves, but it is reduced a pretty good bit. Once I do the other bushings/arms in the back, i'm sure I'll be able to put the power to the ground pretty easy.

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by ZL575BumbleBee

Trust me when I say you will.

My car just squats down and goes now !!

Once again Chase thank you for all of your help. Next mod Ride-Tech Coil Overs.

Very glad you are happy with your upgrade.

[SkunkJunk420]

any word on trailing arms and toe rods?