07-22-2009, 08:25 PM | #57 | |
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What makes you think I directed my post at you? If I wanted to accuse you I'd at least have quoted you or mentioned your name, calm down.
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You want to give these hucksters your cash, far be it from me to stop you. Hell, buy a case of them, get a set for your lawnmower, it's your money. The only point I'm making is that no matter how many people buy them or try to substantiate the company's claims, the fact remains that even if these things had plutonium cores and each came with their own little perfect-spark fairy manservants, either combustion occurs or it doesn't, and even if you were to somehow prove that these magic plugs somehow exceed the known limits of electron transport, you're still not gaining any power or reliability, especially considering you're only replacing one component at the end of a complex ignition system further ensconced within a multitude of other electrical and mechanical systems, the systematic function of which, all together, determine performance and efficiency. But charlatains need to put food on their tables just like everyone else, I guess, and since you're feeling so generous I might just have a bridge you might be interested in... |
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07-29-2009, 08:36 AM | #58 | |
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The bottom line is that ls heads are very good in the combustion area. If you have enough energy to promote a clean combustion process the plug has done it's job. As plugs are used they do get carbon and oxidation on them which can effect thier performance. But this will happen with ANY plug. These high dollar plugs are mearly snake oil with old verses new dyno results. If you guy's think this is bad you should do some searchin on K&N type filters verses stock OEM ones. I think you'll be suprised at the results. |
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08-08-2009, 10:35 PM | #59 |
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How much HP do you think you'll get off a set of these? 4-5 maybe?
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08-08-2009, 10:50 PM | #60 | |
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08-09-2009, 07:16 AM | #61 | |
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08-09-2009, 08:32 AM | #62 | |
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2 mpg could be anything from how you drive to where you drive. Those things are as much snake oil as the pulstars and the rest of that BS.
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08-09-2009, 12:18 PM | #63 | |
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08-09-2009, 09:45 PM | #64 |
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The issue with the bet may be the parameters. Being that you can do a couple dyno runs and get different HP and TQ every time youd probably have to average out the best of 3 for each set of plugs, then as well set a minimum (like 10 HP) for it to count.
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08-10-2009, 08:38 PM | #65 | |
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08-10-2009, 08:55 PM | #66 |
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Sorry guys but I lived tru the "Splitfire" era and saw thousands of people trow away money on advertising/marketing crap. I was a driven by ad dollars. Ignition companies like MSD and Mallory told people on their tech lines run any plug but Splitfire. You want to guess what the "Splitfire" sponsored Pro Stock car ran for plugs? Champions! I watch a Champion rep take them out of the motor.
Anyway, rant over. Your car has a terrific ignition system. Most of you will only change plugs because you'll feel guilty about not doing it for so long. You will need a different heat range for nitrous or blowers. My advice when asked is "buy any brand name plug and your fine". Fine wire plugs I like best. They take a little less current to fire.
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08-26-2015, 01:23 PM | #67 | |
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7 hp gain on this test
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08-26-2015, 01:48 PM | #68 |
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That is an old school SBC with no computer and a carb , not a LS with fuel injection and a computer. IMHO until I see concrete proof on an LS this means nothing. IMHO the NGK V grove copper is the right price and just plain works in an LS motor. If and when these magic plugs wins in stock class racing in an LS I will believe they work best , until then they are unproven and over priced.
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08-26-2015, 08:46 PM | #69 |
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I used NGK's in both my LT1 and LS1 cars and never had a single problem. Car ran great, no misfires. I changed over to NGK's after sea foaming both cars, adding full exhaust (cause that's the easiest time to change plugs), and switching to Royal Purple. My 02 WS6 ran like a bat outta h*** afterwards. Put close to 20k miles on the NGK plugs and it never skipped a beat. I don't have dyno results to prove anything. I just have my personal opinion on it. My trucks have both had AC Delco plugs and both run great.
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08-26-2015, 08:50 PM | #70 |
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I dyno end these on my race motor years ago back to bac to back with ngk, and good old fashion champions, pulstars lost 3 hp to the champions, ngk were the same. Waste of $200
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